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For anyone on this forum still na�ve enough to think that the ultimate goal of the left wing liberals isn't confiscation read the following:
Source: The NRA:
Jim


Confiscate! Confiscate! Confiscate!

Posted on May 17, 2013




Hell hath no fury like an anti-gunner who doesn't get her way on gun control.

The Star-Ledger reported last Friday that after a closed-door hearing on gun control in the New Jersey Senate the previous day, three state senators--believed to be Democrats Loretta Weinberg, Sandra Cunningham and Linda Greenstein--were caught on tape, complaining that bills introduced in the Garden State--including one that would require mandatory training to possess a firearm--don't go far enough.

First, a voice is heard complaining, "We needed a bill that was going to confiscate, confiscate, confiscate." Then, the trio apparently focuses its ire on gun control opponents who say that the way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals is to throw the book at them.

Weinberg, willing to have no part of it, says "They want to keep the guns out of the hands of the bad guys, but they don't have any regulations to do it." Cunningham then snipes, "They don't care about the bad guys. All they want to do is have their little guns and do whatever they want with them," and Greenstein chimes in that enforcing existing law is "the line they have developed."

Strong rhetoric that reveals how gun control supporters really feel about their issue is nothing new, of course. Nearly 20 years ago, U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said that if she had been able to muster the votes, her 1994 "assault weapon" ban would not have merely prohibited various guns from being made with pistol grips, folding stocks and flash suppressors, but would have required a far harsher outcome; as Sen. Feinstein put it, "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in."

However, the fact that gun control supporters still feel that way, after violent crime rates have plummeted as gun controls have been eliminated and gun sales and gun ownership rates have soared, suggests that we're up against ideologically driven adversaries with whom there can be no negotiation--only victory or defeat.

An interesting and revealing study:
Jim

http://pjmedia.com/blog/universal-background-checks-shouldnt-we-review-the-statistics/

"The People" vs Those who feel they own the Flock of Sheeple: The growing cultural division reminds me of the run-up to the Civil War. It's still about who owns whom.

I hate to capitalize on someone's death but if we don't the anti's certainly will. I'd recommend that everyone on here from New Jersey assail the Governor, who will appoint his successor, with the admonition to appoint someone far more conservative.
Lautenberg was a strong anti 2nd Amendment foe in Congress and with another vote sure to come up on the "Universal background Check" Bill we will need all the votes we can get.
Jim



http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/frank-l...mo_code=13B23-1

Please note those from your State who voted for this traitorous legislation. Keep this in mind the next time they're up for re-election.
Jim

Over the weekend, we came four votes away from the United States Senate giving our Constitutional rights over to the United Nations. In a 53-46 vote, the senate narrowly passed a measure that will stop the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.



The Statement of Purpose from the bill read:



To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.



The U.N. Small Arms Treaty, which has been championed by the Obama Administration, would have effectively placed a global ban on the import and export of small firearms. The ban would have affected all private gun owners in the U.S., and had language that would have implemented an international gun registry on all private guns and ammo.



Astonishingly, 46 of our United States Senators were willing to give away our Constitutional rights to a foreign power.



Here are the 46 senators that voted to give your rights to the U.N.



Baldwin (D-WI)

Baucus (D-MT)

Bennet (D-CO)

Blumenthal (D-CT)

Boxer (D-CA)

Brown (D-OH)

Cantwell (D-WA)

Cardin (D-MD)

Carper (D-DE)

Casey (D-PA)

Coons (D-DE)

Cowan (D-MA)

Durbin (D-IL)

Feinstein (D-CA)

Franken (D-MN)Gillibrand (D-NY)



Harkin (D-IA)

Hirono (D-HI)

Johnson (D-SD)

Kaine (D-VA)

King (I-ME)

Klobuchar (D-MN)

Landrieu (D-LA)

Leahy (D-VT)

Levin (D-MI)

McCaskill (D-MO)

Menendez (D-NJ)

Merkley (D-OR)

Mikulski (D-MD)

Murphy (D-CT)

Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL)



Reed (D-RI)

Reid (D-NV)

Rockefeller (D-WV)



Sanders (I-VT)

Schatz (D-HI)

Schumer (D-NY)

Shaheen (D-NH)

Stabenow (D-MI)

Udall (D-CO)

Udall (D-NM)

Warner (D-VA)

Warren (D-MA)

Whitehouse (D-RI)

Wyden (D-OR)



Hello All, here is the list of all the TRAITORS in the U.S. Senate -Thank God there was none listed for OK, AR, TX



People this needs to go viral. These Senators voted to let the UN take our guns. They need to lose the election. We have been betrayed.



46 Senators Voted to Give your 2nd Amendment Constitutional Rights to the U.N.

Sorry, I voted for the other guy.

For all my pro 2A friends out there, I'd like to bring up a point of semantics I was reminded of in a post above. The media and many gun publications tend to refer to anti second amendment people and organizations as "gun control" advocates. After all, who could be against some control of guns? The fact is that those people do not favor control, we have plenty of that, what they really want is prohibition and confiscation. For that reason, I always refer to them as "prohibitionists." We all know what alcohol prohibition did to the US between 1920 and 1933. It was great for criminals and bad for the public. Calling our opponents prohibitionists reinforces this point.

Our side also tends to refer to our opponents as "gun grabbers." This is a very poor choice of words because the great number of non-gun enthusiasts tend to think of us as gun grabbers, inferring that we will grab a gun at the first sign of trouble.

Words matter. Chose your words wisely!

The Freedom Group Won't Be Expanding in Colorado:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/...un-Control-Laws

Obama bypass's congress again !

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-exclusive-obama-offers-new-gun-control-steps



Obama offers new gun control steps

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-exclusive-obama-offers-new-gun-control-steps

One new policy will end a government practice that lets military weapons, sold or donated by the U.S. to allies, be reimported into the U.S. by private entities, where some may end up on the streets. The White House said the U.S. has approved 250,000 of those guns to be reimported since 2005; under the new policy, only museums and a few other entities like the government will be eligible to reimport military-grade firearms.

The Obama administration is also proposing a federal rule to stop those who would be ineligible to pass a background check from skirting the law by registering certain guns, like machine guns and short-barreled shotguns, to a corporation or trust. The new rule would require people associated with those entities, like beneficiaries and trustees, to undergo the same type of fingerprint-based background checks as individuals if they want to register those types of guns.

Peoples Republic of New York - Control the ammo control the guns

Yet another asinine attempt by the commie libtards running and continually fleecing NYS to undermine our constitutional rights.

Read it:

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/A8108-2013

Cliff notes:

It requires id stamping on the bullet base and database tracking for pistol and rifle calibers.
* It adds an ammo tax
* No apparent exemption for .22
* No exemption for reloading
* You must dispose of un-coded ammunition within 1 year (3 years if you have a hunting license)

* You may not have more than 100 rounds of un-coded ammunition after 1 year (even with a hunting license?)

Circle the wagons�remember no one thought that Comrade Cuomo (*"No one needs ten bullets to kill a deer"*) could possibly get the NY SAFE act passed. Down state Republicans are pretty much all in the tank for the trinity telling them what to do. All I see here is less liberty, more tax burden and more big government at work.

Send this out to everyone owning a firearm�any type�as we are all in the same boat. Call and/or write to your NY assemblymen and Senators.

- Control the ammo control the guns -