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Originally Posted By: Dave K
Originally Posted By: King Brown
What no one talks about is that class trumps race as major burden of the United States. The race divide is on everyone's lips but less so on why we starve social programs on grounds we can no longer afford them, why no taxes are good taxes, smaller government is better and wealth should trickle down to the bottom like oats through a horse.


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Yup, I see five or six inflammatory prejudicial points here that are supposed to be accepted as fact. I do not suspect any presentation of facts will help, there is no enough.

Still, in general, we'll be told to be civil and reach across the isle, because the right is bad not factually wrong. The talking points are incrementally supposed to become the new normal through repetition. I think King knows the left will gladly accept small victories, and they know that some liberty that the right will claim as a victory, will only strengthen the lefts ability to be a lefty or become a rally point.

I still think the right has to work on media savy, rather than facts and common sense. The above quote would be a good example. Not in the sense of participation, but I'd disagree with the sentiment of Jim's walk away. There have been many different ways of expressing, know your enemy. I suspect Jim does though.

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King, didn't you tell us ( about a thousand times) that you were a reporter for the CBC? Here is a list of past and present personalities associated with the Television and Radio arms of the Canadian Broadcast Corporation with names going back to the 1930's....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_Broadcasting_Corporation_personalities

How did they omit a luminary like you???? Is this only the ones who had some importance or gravitas? Weren't you practically a Canadian Walter Cronkite? Oh wait, Walter Cronkite was deemed trustworthy.


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Craig et al:
I came back of here long enough to provide a link to the article that IMO exactly points out the viscous lies coming from the current administration and IMO, more importantly, the reluctance on the part of the so-called "mainstream news media' to call them on these lies. Lying has become a way of life for liberals and that's apparent when you review their posts on this forum.
I have never had a problem with anyone whose opinion differs from mine as long as the opinion is intelligently stated and backed up with facts.
That is not what has happened in this section and we are confronted with more and more ridiculous and bizarre lies from those individuals with bankrupt ideas. Lying or insulting those who point out their lies is the only "defense" they have since they're far to spineless to ever admit the truth.
This culminated at least for me with the stated opinion that Ephesian's is a Biblical justification for "White Laws". I am reasonably familiar with the Bible; However I took the time to re-read Ephesian's again and nothing of that sort is in there.
IMO: Continuing any sort of dialogue with individuals posting such rot as fact is an utter waste of time.
When the collapse due to these lies and an administration which is totally incompetent comes as it's bound to it's going to make the situation in Detroit look like a picnic.
Jim

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Originally Posted By: italiansxs
Craig et al:
I came back of here long enough to provide a link to the article that IMO exactly points out the viscous lies coming from the current administration and IMO, more importantly, the reluctance on the part of the so-called "mainstream news media' to call them on these lies. Lying has become a way of life for liberals and that's apparent when you review their posts on this forum.



Welcome back Jim( I come and go here as well), but I but the link was already posted;

"Originally Posted By: Dave K
The left exists on lies,look at Holder,Obama, Lerner,Clinton-both of them,Susan Rice, Reid ("Romney did not pay any taxes",Poco Hontus Warren,Weiner,Spritzer the press and on and on

A Nation of Liars

http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/lying-in-the-age-of-obama/ "


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Hey, I'll post it too because it bears repetition.

http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/lying-in-the-age-of-obama/

I read this when Dave K originally provided the link. The only problem with it is that it barely scratches the surface. Several of us have spent quite a bit of time here putting a spotlight on the many lies of the liberal left. It's as easy as finding salt water in the ocean. I find them every bit as disgusting as Jim does.

I'm also pretty sure that sometimes we may provide a link or bit of information that isn't 100% accurate. That's easy enough to do when you get news from the internet or don't take some time to verify. But that's when you man up and admit you made a mistake rather than cover up a lie with another lie... followed by another lie... and another lie... That's the difference between being human and being mentally ill.


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Dave K and Keith:
Dave I'm sorry I missed your link. I haven't been reading much of the threads here lately.
As far as the blatant lying goes as detailed in that article don't hold your collective breaths waiting for one of the Libtard's here to try and refute any of it. It's difficult to refute the truth!
At best you may expect a "Biblical" explanation for the lack of morals and ethics exhibited by anyone on the left. I remain as disgusted as ever with this type of behavior and I'm even more disgusted with the "mainstream" news media for going along with it so I'll probably just go back to building my latest gun.
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Jim, I'm confused by your reference to St. Paul's letter and "white laws." Memory is not what it used to be but please cite where I used the college president's quote as my "stated opinion" of the Letter being a justification for "white laws." I recall referring to laws to keep blacks in their place and cited the "ridiculous" words of the college president but that was his statement, his Biblical injunction, not mine. Don't look to Misfires for intelligent discourse. Dave put us in dunce caps off in a corner of our own, to rant and rave and knock ourselves out.


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I interviewed a president of a southern white college who told me the white laws are there to keep blacks in their place. C'mon, I said. "Read it for yourself," he said. "It's in St. Paul's letter to the Esphesians."

Your quote. You posted it. I see no attempt on your part to refute it.

The truth of the matter is Blacks see everything through Black eyes as that Pastor pointed out in a video that's received wide circulation.
The bottom line here is Treyvon Martin was a 17 year old punk who decided to try and punch the hell out of someone who was in the position to retaliate. If he had just kept on walking like most sensible people would do when not in a comfortable environment he'd be alive today. I didn't want to get involved in these endless explanations of what a jury was able to see clearly. I am exiting this thread permanently as no facts or common sense has any effect on the liberal posting here and I don't care to waste any more of my time.

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King, did you also mean that the statements by Congressional Black Caucus member Rep. Marcia Fudge, D-Ohio were ridiculous as well? And how about your comments on "prattle about black welfare queens', the SNAP program, corporate welfare, starved social welfare programs, corporate ownership of the media, effects of deregulation, your statement that "we're all socialists now", middle class being snookered into identifying with the upper classes, etc., etc.?? Was that all posted because you thought it was ridiculous too?

After numerous posts sympathetic to the poor downtrodden black race, do you expect anyone to believe that you posted that supposed statement from the alleged southern college president because you thought it was ridiculous? You didn't say that when you posted it. You made no allusions to that. Everyone here knows that King the athiest was trying to tell us that some of the roots of racism can be found in St. Pauls Letter to the Ephisians. Did you really think you could get away with that? I suppose you did. Then, after years of whining about the "white laws" meant to keep the black man down, you attempt to come slithering back with an equally deceptive (and ridiculous) explanation for your lie. Why won't you tell us who that southern white college president was King? What do you have to hide, except virtually everthing?

Nice try King. You didn't fool anyone. Hey, tell us again how your Dad converted to Catholicism without belief in the ressurection... Ha ha ha, that was a good one! You really are pathetic.


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I'm pleased to leave it as well, Jim---and Treyvon as only another reminder of the American curse---but it should be as clear to you as it is to me that I was quoting the college president, and it was not my "stated opinion" as you claimed:

"This culminated at least for me with the stated opinion that Ephesian's is a Biblical justification for "White Laws"."

Disgust with lying may be relieved if a lie is recognized for what it is---a statement we make knowing it not to be true---and not a difference of opinion. Members don't accuse others of lying when they err or differ in our other forums. Misfires is polluted by imputed motives. Pity.

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