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My take is that at least half of all voting Americans are either ignorant,racist,don't know what "leader" really means,vote their own narrow interest(s),vote the party and not the man or a combination of the above.I still think we haven't had a "leader" in the office since Eisenhower.I wouldn't follow the last 3 clowns we have had in office out of a burning building.Wit,charm,looks and a gift of the gab are not what I am looking for in a POTUS.

King, sorry to strike a little nerve, and I feel like a real chump for not walking away, but not a one of your betterments have actually happened to this point. As a courtesy, I'll watch for signs over the next three years.

Your historical perspective is interesting, but possibly not related to job performance.

Agree- Wit, charm and the gift of gab (and glad-handing) were the only attributes(??) old Warren G. Harding brought to the table in 1920- and the ladies voted for him because he "looked so presidential"-- Two lessons to be learned from this bit of history from the now-gone 20th Century-- all IMO of course-- (1) The best Presidents are not dressed like Adolph Menjou or look like Gray Cooper or Cary Grant-- I am thinking about Harry S. Truman and Dwight Eisenhower and Gerald R. Ford-- they have True Grit and substance-- (2) When women got the right to vote, our Country started down the slow and slippery slope to PITA meddling Liberalism (Eleanor Roosevelt, Gloria Steinheim, the broads who burned their bras and thought that ERA was NOT a baseball term hallowed and revered since Abner Doubleday's era)- and now we are paying that price- just as my Granddad predicted to me when I was 12--Damn shame too!!!

I think you may be on to something,Fox.

Fox, for every bra burning feminist there is some [censored] man doing his best to screw things up as well. IMO you couldn't be more wrong about the problem being that we gave women the vote.

What we did, men more often than women, is forget what courage, hard work and determination will bring the individual and the country. Instead we have generations of both men and women, poorly educated in the way to be successful in life, who expect government to solve their problems. That, and only that, is the problem.

And just as many men contributed to it as women.

In the inner city it is the women who are raising the men and together they are screwing things up with their selfish,ignorant interests guiding their vote.

Not one betterment? How about Obama listing his unprecedented health reform benefits at the White House today? Does that count?

Did those women get pregnant by themselves? With each other? Didn't think so.

In every case there is some guy who doesn't have the mental or ethical wherewithal to understand his responsibility towards a woman he impregnates and the resulting child. That didn't have anything to do with women voting.

It is the women who have the power over the men.All they have to do is withhold/give sex and they can make the ignorant man do their bidding.I think you'll find the women are the ones that see the importance of voting and they're the ones that manipulate the system to keep the families going in the absence of a male bread winner.Even a ghetto queen's mothering instinct will get her to do whatever to raise her child.Look at all the sports stars that thank their mothers for their success when interviewed.

Sorry King, even if we could take him at his word, which you have assured us is not possible. The can so to speak has been kicked down the election road so as to not bite the hand that prints the ponzi money. To this point, there are no, let's say tangible, benefits to ocare other than the obliging press.

Now, if you were actually preparing for the coming ocare hope-n-change, you may find as dem max 'the document drafter' baucus says, it's a train wreck. On this issue of ocare, you might consider (?) tucking your feel goods aside and actually look at what's happening. Then let me know if you would plop a loved one into this system as it stands after he read the prompter today.