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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Racism is racism, regardless who's stoking it, doc. It's not particular of colour, where it finds those who hate and discriminate, shoot, tear at each other because of real or imagined grievances. It's an abiding, soul-searing curse.


And I never implied otherwise. I'm 52.....and most of the actual racism I have seen has been practiced by the same people that use it as an excuse for everything when its not going their way. Sometimes its the Blacks..othertimes it the hispanics, and yes to a MUCH smaller degree even the Native Americans.

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The liberals are asking us to give Obama time.
We agree, and think 25 to life would be Appropriate.
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Not pointing a finger at anyone. Been careful to address it as a common abiding burden. I agree totally with your view; it seems we all look for spaces to take others down, to look down our noses at differences from our own. Agree on indigenous with whom I work.Thanks.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Any way we look at it, Mike, the tragedy is that it's another spike to the indomitable curse of racism. I doubt there's anyone here who doesn't remember how short the years since the civil rights struggle, Birmingham and Oxford, Washington and Los Angeles, voter registration etc after 200 years of slavery....

...Just my opinion...



'Not pointing a finger at anyone'? Maybe just a bit warm out and doing a little fanning. You seem to value intelligent civil discussion. Quite a lot to conclude from the verdict.

Why do you insist that the color of skin is more important than the content of character. That a person of color 'has been a disappointment in many ways' seems to be a buried disclaimer, not a call for a better country or world. Another excuse?

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Please read it again, craig. 1. I'm not insisting on anything. I'm expressing my opinion. 2. Nowhere do I say or imply colour is more important than character. 3. You may see a buried disclaimer where there is none. That's you, not me.

Obama has been a disappointment to many of his followers---he's no FDR---but he raised hope and enormous respect for the US throughout the world. A Canadian poll showed preference for Obama over their current prime minister!

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King:

I do believe that a substantial chunk of the population of the U.S. would trade you Obama for Harper in a nanosecond.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
...Obama lifted hearts throughout the world when the most powerful, dynamic nation on earth turned to a person of colour, with strong portents of more presidents of colour to come, but making an X on a ballot for whatever reason is easier than finding more compassion and generosity in our hearts.

Obama raised notions of possibilities because all countries share the burden of racism, exclusivity and entitlement...

...Just my opinion...


King, maybe a closer look. I notice many references to 'colour', but not character which is the point I brought up. Again, it seems to me that racism is your focal point, not what the man has done or could do to improve the situation. Does disappointment mean he has worsened racial tensions, but you're bound by pc etiquette to sugar coat.

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Originally Posted By: Remington40x
King:

I do believe that a substantial chunk of the population of the U.S. would trade you Obama for Harper in a nanosecond.

Rem


We'll even throw in Biden, Holder, Clinton, Kerry, Mayor Bloomberg, and a whole slew of Libtard Democrat Senators to boot. But you have to keep them. Don't come whining to us when Canada becomes a welfare state trillions in debt.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
A Canadian poll showed preference for Obama over their current prime minister!


And in breaking news, a poll of first graders indicated a marked preference for Santa Claus over spinach.

How meaningless, King!

A poll of ill-informed foreigners misled by an ill-informed yet fawning Canadian media, has a preference for Obama over Harper. So what!

What you are failing to say when you talk about Obama inspiring hope and aspiration for change around the world, was that was before he gained the reins of power. That was before inauguration. That was 5 years ago. No Hope and Change these days.

Since he took office, by any rational measure, he has been a dramatic disappointment to his supporters and likely, through his deceipt and incompetence, set back the aspirations of other black American politicians by many years.

I would have loved to watch Obama try to govern, as Harper did for five years, in our system with a minority government. His government wouldn't have lasted six months.

Obama is an incompetent boob, with dictatorial tendencies, who has been invested with attributes he does not possess by a segment of the American people who really are desperate for hope. He is a charlatan of the highest order.


The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Originally Posted By: King Brown
A Canadian poll showed preference for Obama over their current prime minister!


And in breaking news, a poll of first graders indicated a marked preference for Santa Claus over spinach.

How meaningless, King!

A poll of ill-informed foreigners misled by an ill-informed yet fawning Canadian media, has a preference for Obama over Harper. So what!

What you are failing to say when you talk about Obama inspiring hope and aspiration for change around the world, was that was before he gained the reins of power. That was before inauguration. That was 5 years ago. No Hope and Change these days.

Since he took office, by any rational measure, he has been a dramatic disappointment to his supporters and likely, through his deceipt and incompetence, set back the aspirations of other black American politicians by many years.

I would have loved to watch Obama try to govern, as Harper did for five years, in our system with a minority government. His government wouldn't have lasted six months.

Obama is an incompetent boob, with dictatorial tendencies, who has been invested with attributes he does not possess by a segment of the American people who really are desperate for hope. He is a charlatan of the highest order. Indeed he is- just like the late Adolph Hitler and the German people of the 1930's-- they both are/were great at public speaking, using the tactic of repeating small lies until they are believed in full by the masses, "full of sound and fury, and signifying an eventual day of disaster and disappointment by those foolish enough to follow them into oblivion"-- If Trayvon Martin were white, and George Zimmerman an African American, Eric Holder would appoint Zimmerman to be head of the BATFE Gestapo--





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For sure, if this board is any indication, Rem!

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