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Lloyd, The finish on your model 17 is the bluing turning "plum" with age and exposure to the elements. The gun has seen a fair bit of service and is starting to show it. Some people turn to a refinish at this point, others will keep an eye on the stocks, wipe the gun down carefully after a day in the field, and enjoy it as-is. I would likely fall into the second camp. I would investigate further, and look into glass bedding the head of the stock. I like the look of the original wood and would do everything possible to keep it there another 50 years. Beautiful old gun, by the way.
Best, Ted
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Remington Model 10s, Model 17s, Model 29s, Model 31s, and now Model 17s built 6-years after they supposedly stopped production? No wonder I'm having a hard time makeing sense of it all. Pre-WWII Remington pumpguns are a veritable cornucopia of models and gauges!
Let's see If I'm following correctly, Model 10s were 12-bore only, Model 17s were 20-bore only. Model 10s were replaced by Model 29s (in 12-bore only, and only built for 3-years). Both the Model 29s and the Model 17s were replaced by the new Model 31s (in 12, 16, and 20-gauge) in 1934, with Ithaca adopting Remington's then discarded Model 17 design to build their Model 37. Whew!
It sounds to me like Remington was doing everything it could to compete with Winchester's venerable Model 12, and only meeting with marginal success.
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Thanks Ted! It pleases my eye as well. I'll continue to moniter the head of that stock. It does appear to be a bit discolored, but it's not obviously oil-soaked or punky yet. It will very likely serve out the rest of it's years in your home State, on the Canadian border west of I-Falls. First in the hands of my in-laws, and then perhaps in my son's.
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My own gun has spent quite a bit of time in the same area, but, not recently. I went 5 for 5 on both woodcock and grouse behind a memorable Gordon Setter one time with my model 17, close to Orr, MN, in the late 1980s. I've never done that with any other gun in the course of a day. I only shoot a brace of birds, these days, before I call it quits. I really don't pester the woodcock, either, unless my less than memorable English Setter handles one really well. They really aren't her forté, and I see far fewer of them than I once did.
Good Luck with the old gun.
Best, Ted
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Wow, talk about late to the party! I used to really get chastised here in years past for even bringing up my beloved Model 17! I have two currently but have had many come through my home and love to find good homes for them. I had a three digit 17A that went to a collector as it was far too nice for a hunter like me. I've had some solid rib guns but to be honest I have a soft spot for the plain barrel guns with Polychokes on them! The majority of upland game I've killed in the past 15 years has been with a Remington Model 17. I could go on and on. Did you know the solid ribs were MACHINED as part of the barrel! Ithaca's genius was that they figured out how to make the 37 profitable. The 17 had way too many machining steps which made it too expensive to build. The Remington Model 17 and the Winchester Model 42 are the only shotguns every made specifically for a gauge other than 12. If your a fan of the 20 gauge, you need one! Really I will stop shortly! Some one owns this, sadly not me! Maybe one of the ones mentioned awaiting a face lift? A few have been projects...
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Last edited by Tim Frazier; 04/29/13 06:25 PM.
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Nice pictures, thanks for posting them! Before we get locked down for posting these awful pump guns,,here's another to add to the list of those made specificly for a gauge other than 12. Stevens Model 200,,in 20ga and 3inch chamber (only) no less. Short lived, very low production and a mystery to most. But they aren't all that complicated inside. Very strong lock-up. Not nearly the fine looks of the 17,,but it's different,,I like it. Shoots well. But it never saw any 3" ammo from me. 1911/14 time period,,somewhere in there.
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Mr. Frazier: I believe I owe my limited education on Model 17s to one of your posts a few months ago. Look what you started!
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Kutter: What a wild-looking design on that Stevens 200! I thought all of John Moses Browning's guns were supposed to be beautiful? That one sure is a mystery. I've got to try and track one of those down just to try it. It's so darn ungainly it's just plain cool!
FWIW: I know some doublegun folks that would have snit just looking at it.
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