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Did you ever end up with the wreck of a high grade model 17 that was seen here, Rob?
God, what a shame that gun was. Definitely worth saving, however.
I've never seen a higher grade in person than the 17B I own.
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Nice one!
I'd have gotten right in to that project dispite the others waiting..but then I like odd model pump guns.
Condition not all that bad really when looking at it from a restoration standpoint..
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Recoil Rob: What a stunning piece! What year was that one turned out? Something of that quality would be a prime candidate for restoration if it was in my stable. FWIW: Who would you use on a gun like that?
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Mine finally arrived. According to the barrel date markings it was made in March of 1929. Not as light as I had thought, 6lbs even.
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Where can I get pictures of the different engraving patterns they used on the 17's?
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As far as I know, the higher grade Remington Model 17s were only pictured in the 1923 catalogue --    As originally introduced, the Remington Arms Co., Inc. Model 17A "Standard" Grade came with a plain stock and a ringed forearm just like the Model 10A "Standard" Grade. When Remington Arms Co., Inc. improved the Model 10 to the Model 29, the Model 29A "Standard" Grade got a checkered stock and forearm and so did the Model 17A. That is how it is shown in the 1930 and later Remington paper.
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Researcher: Thank you so much! Now I know mine's a Model 17B. And, it looks like Recoil Rob's is a 17E "Expert" grade gun. Wonderful resources here.
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 Aren't cellphones useful things? Remington 17B Special grade.
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Up into the 1929 Remington Arms Co., Inc. catalogue the Model 17A "Standard" Grade is pictured with the plain stock and ringed forearm --  As to when Remington actually changed to the checkered wood on the factory floor I have no information. There isn't a notation in the old "between the Wars" factory ledger. From 1930 on the Model 17A "Standard" Grade is pictured like this --  Remington didn't seem to ever bother to change the catalogue text to mention the checkering. Guess they were more interested at that time in getting their smallbore Model 31s to the market. The Model 17 last appears in the 1933 retail catlaogue, and the 16- and 20-gauge Model 31s are in the August 12, 1933, Illustrated Retail Price List and the Model 17 is gone. Supposedly Remington continued to sell Model 17s out of inverntory up to WW-II. In 1934 J.L. Galef, 75 Chambers St., NYC, was closing out Model 17As out at $27 with plain barrel and $31 with a solid rib. By J.L. Galef's September 1936, catalogue Model 17As are $25 for a plain barrel and $28 with a solid rib. In the 1937, J. Warshal & Sons, Seattle, Washington, catalogue they still have 30-inch barrel solid rib Model 17As (prepaid to you) $34.95. The catalogue texts always say the Model 17A "Standard" Grade had an American Walnut Stock, while the Model 17B "Special" Grade had an imported walnut stock and forearm. I have only seen a very few B "Special" Grades in any of the "between the Wars" Remington shotguns, and the only one I am really sure about is this fairly early "The Sportsman" B-Grade which is clearly marked -- 
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