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I have a SLE and took the locks out and the bridle of the left hand lock is fractured through the most posterior pin. This is a Holland and Holland style lock. The gun still functions but I doubt if this cracked bridle is going to get any better on its' own. Can this hairline crack be welded up or will I have to have a new bridle made? This seems like it may be an expensive problem??
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A good welder can repair it.The key is getting everything to line up after the weld as the heat can distort the position of the pin holes. First I make a close fitting jig that is a slip fit for the bridle then weld the crack. I anneal the part after the weld, refit, then harden. I just did one on a Lang bore rifle. Not an inexpensive repair, but it should not break the bank.
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For Buzz Mike
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Thanks for posting the photo, Mike! SKB, I'm pretty sure the crack goes all the way through because it's slightly off set. I will try to get it apart, but I have to rely on others for posting photos. I have a feeling I'm going to have to have a new bridle fabricated. I have no idea how this fracture occurred?? I think it may be a rare occurrence.
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with it going through the pin hole, a new made one will be your best bet. Who made the gun?
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The gun was made by Jason Abbot, an English gun made in the trade. It is one of eight guns made by that maker. I have sent him an email in London to see if he can come up with a bridle. I just sent it today and haven't heard back. I'm keeping my fingers crossed he can send me a new bridle because that thing looks pretty complicated to make.
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I would add, with 45 plus years of welding behind me- First anneal, then TIG and pack in charcoal to cool, then re-harden later-- But, that stress area on a bridle- near a pin location or mounting hole--best choice is have a new one made to pattern--I suggest 6150 AISI alloy steel-
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Buzz;
In years past I have made lock plate bridles and it is not a job for the faint of heart, inexperienced, or for someone who has not made one from scratch before. The first one I ever made was for a SLE gun with a Boss style lock(somewhat early though). I probably spent 40 hours making the jig, cutters and other tools needed to make the bridle, and in this case the tumbler as well.
From this you will understand that such a job is costly, if making a new bridle from steel stock is necessary.
I would ring up Jason and ask him who made his locks, if the makers name is not stamped upon the inside of the lock plate. Sending the entire lock over to the lock maker may be the best way to proceed and much less costly. Making a new bridle must be done perfect, or you will have a binding lock mechanism.
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I have a Bland here with one broken through at the tumbler axle hole. I'll have to scratch around here and find the 8620 bar and make a new one.
Just another day at the office.......
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