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I have a solid rib 28 inch modified model 17 and it would be the one i would use if i shot pumps. Bobby

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Researcher's correct of course. Old guys should never rely on memory cells!...Geo

Cataloged or not my 520 is a 16ga. Actually, it's a Montgomery- Ward model 30 version of the 520. The 5 and 620s Researcher pictured have the early 'suicide safety' inside the trigger guard. The later models like mine have a tang safety.




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The Model 17 Remington was my first shotgun, one that had belonged to my grandfather and he also made the stock for it. I still have it (55 yrs later--yikes!) and Ken Hurst did a beautiful engraving on both sides of it. They are close to the Model 37 Ithaca, but few if any, of the parts are interchangeable. Most importantly the firing pin in mine started hanging up within the bolt and required some surgery, welding and alteration. That is the only problem I have ever had and it has seen lots of use. BTW, the Ithaca version takes care of the issue with the bolt/firing pin so in that regard it is superior.


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Seems like getting off the subject (Rem. 17). My Model 30 is a Ranger (I think thats Sears) in 16ga with safty on backside of trigger guard. Nice slim gun, but wish I had the tang safty.

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You folks are an amazing resource. So where does the Model 31 fit in all of these evolutionary tales? Was the 17 a precursor to it (as it appears to be to the Ithaca Model 37)? Was the 31 as light?

Yet another question.....w/all things being equal (LOP, gauge, barrel length) which gun is lighter, a Model 37 or a Model 17?

I ask this because I know a few hunters (both younger and older) that would benefit greatly from lugging a much-lighter gun afield. They would have much more fun, and they would likely increase their bag numbers as well.

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Ok George,

Your gun is a No. 520A with the flat-topped reciever. Doesn't have the second bump along the top like the No. 520 - 535s. It never appeared in any J. Stevens Arms Co. or Savage/Stevens/Fox catalogue that I've ever seen. I've seen them as military riot/trench guns marked 520-30 and as "trade brand" sporting guns for both Montgomery Ward and Sears, Roebuck & Co. The are in the 1951 Savage/Stevens/Fox parts list --


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Back to Remington Model 17s. They were a John M. Browning design all their own, certainly not related to Remington's 12-gauge John D. Pedersen designed Remington Repeating Shotgun/Model 1908/Model 10 or the shortlived improved version the Model 29. While I am genetically predisposed to dispise bottom dumper pump guns, I do find Model 17s with the bosses at the front and back of their receivers rather attractive. Much nicer looking than slab-sided Ithacas. If you ever see the one Remington engraver Carl Ennis did for his Wife, you'll see how really attractive they can be!!

The Model 31 was an entirely new side ejecting design by Remington designer C.C. Loomis, with help from Charles H. Barnes and Oliver H. Loomis. Once it went through the growing pains of the 1931 and 1934 versions and emerged full blown in the 1941 version it was, in my not too humble opinion, the greatest pump gun to shoot ever. And, I shot NSSA Skeet with a full bag of Winchester Model 12/42s for seven years. The Model 31s do have their issues though, and if you've spent some time with one, you know why in 1950 Remington went to the "twin action bars" on their new Model 870 Wingmaster.

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I always thought a nice Model 31 was a nicer gun than a model 12 and I really like the Model 12. I've never been able to find a nice model 17 at a decent price and I've been looking for 20 years. Seen a few -never shot one.


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Thanks for your posts Researcher. Learning more about Remington and Stevens today. My Model 30 "Ranger" 16ga has the second hump, but safety on backside of trigger guard, so I'm assuming it's a late version 520. If I wanted a tang safety, I would be looking for the newer 520A

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Tim Frazier has some nice M17's. He located a fine Deluxe that now sits in my gunsafe. I also have a "shooter" with a Lyman adjustable choke. Major difference between it and the M37 Ithaca is that the Ithaca has both top and bottom extractors whereas the M17 only has a bottom extractor. Ithaca planned to introduce a copy of the M17 in 1933 when Browning's patent expired but Pedersen had made some changes in the Browning design and those patents didn't expire until a few years later permitting Ithaca to run with the design with a few changes. M17s were made in any gauge you desired as long as it was 20 gauge.

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