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This phrase appears on the barrel of a Mauser sporter next to the name J D Moritz' Sohn, Leipzig. It would seem to identify the steel used in this barrel. Can anyone provide some interpretation here? Thanks for any explanation.
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I would interpret that as J.D. Moritz and Son of Leipzig - either the maker / merchant / owner. I don't think it has anything to do with the steel used. JMHO --- John
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A guess was that is was an early recipe for Röchling's Special Steel with some percentages of Wolfram, Nickel & Chrome and possible others. It was an attempt by the descendants of Johann Gottfried Röchling, no children; therefore nephews, that were developing a steel to compete with Poldi's Antikorro/Anticorro. I'm sure there is much more to the story. I'm curious of V. Chr. Treibel along with V. Chr. Schilling had the alloy steel market cornered and was also the source for this too? Any Triebel marks underneath? http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...true#Post300321Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Thanks, Raimey. Yes, the receiver rail is engraved Chr Friedr Triebel, Suhl. I haven't seen many German rifles with different names on the barrel and receiver.
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A guess was that is was an early recipe for Röchling's Special Steel with some percentages of Wolfram, Nickel & Chrome and possible others. It was an attempt by the descendants of Johann Gottfried Röchling, either sons or nephews, that were developing a steel to compete with Poldi's Antikorro/Anticorro. I'm sure there is much more to the story. I'm curious of V. Chr. Treibel had the alloy steel market cornered and was also the source for this too? Any Triebel marks underneath? http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums ubbthreSearchpage=1&Main=18518&Words=poldi&Search=true#Post300321 Kind Regards, Raimey rse Chrome Vanadium steels (AISI 6150) were/are an alloyed steel grade developed in France by J. Forqualt, who also perfected the electric melt furnace, to replace the Bessemer and BOF techniques used then to produce alloyed steels. Henry Ford discovered this in a 1906 trip to France--Wolfram is no longer used in electric melting steel production, but in the 1900's it was a form of a stabilizer, similar to silicone--Nice to know the Frogs can do something besides smell badly and drown their food in sauces and gravies of various sorts--
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The Boys Röchling spent some time in the French penitentiary after WWI for destroying some French mills or something of the like.
Since Triebel is on the tube, he just may have been the outlet for the Röchling-Sonderstahl R.7.L.
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Sorry All I misunderstood the ?, my only excuse is a senior's moment. --- John
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John, we all get those. Thanks for your response and for yours, Raimey.
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No worries but could you pleasure us with a few images of the marks to see if possibly Triebel was a Röchling-Sonderstahl(Special Steel) vendor also. For now it is tough to pin down the date for Röchling-Sonderstahl but I would guess circa WWI and a date code might help narrow the date.
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 Not exactly the Röchling Sonder Steel mark I was looking for but Röchling Sonderstahl Marke Furodit  Chr. Friedr. Triebel sideplated boxlock proofed May 1946 with Röchling Sonderstahl tube steel. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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