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Saying Criminals get their guns through legitimate means..is like claiming not all Cocaine comes from outside the Country.


The liberals are asking us to give Obama time.
We agree, and think 25 to life would be Appropriate.
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Originally Posted By: oldstarfire
Hummmm...there goes that song again, dammit
Delta Dawn, wh.....
I recall that song- Helen Reddy= the fem-lib-lezzie with her "I am woman, hear me roar" anthem to Gloria Steinem and Helen Gurlie Brown- what a load of crap-- But what does opening Pandora's fabled box have to do with Delta Dawn, what's the flower you have on?? Pray Tell. I don't recall any lines in that song about opening boxes--


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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
That's a twisted statistic.....

True felons don't buy guns from licensed gun dealers but they most definitely buy them on the street and also at some gun shows....they don't steal them all.



Excellent point, I wonder if anyone ever thought about closing that gun show loophole.

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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Originally Posted By: Dave K

That is correct,and has been for many years.Felons,criminals-and the statistics support this- do not buy guns (or much of anything else except drugs and booze),they steal what they want.



That's a twisted statistic.....

True felons don't buy guns from licensed gun dealers but they most definitely buy them on the street and also at some gun shows....they don't steal them all.


Wrong, and once again you have NO PROOF !
Like all your other your "views" you can NOT prove,tell us again how the NRA agrees with you or you can sell a gun in "the hood" and break no law.

jOe you can not refute the fact that criminals STEAL guns and universal backround checks- registration will do nothing to stop them.

Even ABC-not by any means on the NRA's side can prove your wrong and criminals steal guns,not buy them.



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Originally Posted By: Dave K
Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Originally Posted By: Dave K

That is correct,and has been for many years.Felons,criminals-and the statistics support this- do not buy guns (or much of anything else except drugs and booze),they steal what they want.



That's a twisted statistic.....

True felons don't buy guns from licensed gun dealers but they most definitely buy them on the street and also at some gun shows....they don't steal them all.


Wrong, and once again you have NO PROOF

Even ABC-not by any means on the NRA's side can prove your wrong and criminals steal guns,not buy them.



And if they don't actually steal them, themselves...they buy them from other criminals that did steal them. They are still STOLEN guns.

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The answer is yes and yes, with one Ontario organization on the record as doing so.

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Craig, the Patriot Act wasn't from left field. I referenced it in a post concerning social dynamics of why Canadians went along with registration. Americans accepted a far more draconian assault on liberties with the Patriot Act. On that evidence alone, Obama asking the general public to support proposed checks and sales reporting would be a much easier sell. And that, my friend, is registration light. It's not a question of Reason prevailing. It's caving in big-time to unwarranted arbitrary measures. That's not "injecting unrelated controversy" but a needle of reality.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
The answer is yes and yes, with one Ontario organization on the record as doing so.


No offense King, but I'd rather not live under Canadian firearms laws. That patriot act may be an assault on liberties, but the libs are assaulting a constitutional right.

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Nothing's offensive where conversation is not rude or mischievous, Craig. I wasn't comparing our firearms laws with yours. The Patriot Act was a big-time infringement of your constitutional rights. Canadian provinces passed laws to thwart the Patriot Act's intrusions on Canadian data stored in the US or with US companies in Canada. US conservatives AND liberals didn't say boo.

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Craig, help me out here.

Isn't the point of your constitution to ensure your rights and liberties are not unduly infringed upon?

If so, isn't standing up for and defending your liberties as important as standing up and defending your constitutional rights? Actually kinda the same thing?

In fact, the liberties came before the constitution. The constitution's raison d'tre is to protect those liberties. So why allow so easily the Patriot Act while getting your collective shirts in a knot about background checks?

I see defence of liberty as paramount, the words written two centuries ago are just another tool in the bag to help you do that.

Allowing the Patriot Act to pass unchallenged should be viewed as a mistake to be corrected by right thinking Americans, those who believe in the value of the ideas and ideals put forth by the framers of your constitution.


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