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If you look on the barrel flats you will see a date stamp .It will consist of a circle wtih two letters and a number .The letters are the date code the number is the veiwers id . Gunman, would you please explain the coding?
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Hi Spoe.
Your gun looks like a 700 and with a serial number starting 145XXX my list of numbers puts the date of manufacture as 1976.
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Your gun is a 700 . As to proof dates .Prior to 1975 the date stamp was crossed pikes with the code letters AB=1950 to ZB=1974 .1975 to 1984 a circle with letters AB=1975 to KB=1984 .Webleys were numbered at jointing stage and would have been proofed within a couple of weeks of this . The barreled action may have stood for a while prior to finishing or the finished gun been held in the warehouse befor sale to a shop and subsequent customer as a new gun . It is therefore possible that a gun with a eg. 1975 proof date may not have actually been sold until 1978 .
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I understood that the sequence was 700, 701, 702 with an increase in the quality of finish and engraving at each step up.
However I may be wrong.
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Redgrouse.
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Hi Redgrouse
That was the theory 700 was the basic and as the number increased the better quality the wood and engraving. But as in life there are exceptions because I have seem some wonderful wood on 700s and others with far more engraving than the normal.
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hello all,
whilst this is a welcome and interesting thread there are factual inaccuracies in the opening post re the spec of the 700 series.( these errors have been mentioned by others but have not been picked up on or corrected).
the 700,701 nor 702 have neither chopper lump barrels nor a screw grip action.
cheers mrwmartin
redgrouse.. i realise the confusion and difficulties re 700 series spec but all the literature and catalogues i have re webley has the 701 as the top spec(and price) of the series.
cheers mrwmartin
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Hi all.
I think it is time for me to put this “screw grip” thing to bed. Firstly I said that: Another not so obvious modification is that the top leaver is fitted into a part called a screw grip that can be seen surrounding the leaver boss and screw. This also moves when the lever is operated and is used to support the spindle that operates the action bolt when it locks and unlocks the barrels, all powered by a V spring. It does not say or even suggest it is a screw grip action does it, it is a description of the part surrounding the leaver and if W&S wanted to call it that who am I to argue. The barrels mistake I accept because we are not all perfect are we.But please read what I write and not what you think I have written.
And thank you all for all your contributions to my posting so far because I am so taken back by how the guns are appreciated in your country.
Damascus
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hello damascus,
apologies if you are offended by my comments i am trying to be helpful.however, the webley 700 does not have a screwgrip.you are describing the webley horseshoe top LEVER.
i am a great fan of webleys and am actualy trying to source a good 700 at the moment.
best wishes
mrwmartin
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Sequence of grades 700[basic] 702[middle] 701[best] .
There were also the 720 and 728 these were a 702 grade gun in 20 and 28 bore for the American market . Different customers ordered gun with variants to the basic grade such as 700 with 702 wood , scolaped or scroll back actions ,rounded bodys or differing engraving styles as with barrel lengths and rib type .For instance a 702 with full pistol grip semi beavertail forend and 30" barrels with raised flat rib and blacked action that went to New Zealand .
May I also put to bed the argument about the " screw grip " . Webley's referred to it as a grip nut and although it no longer served a functional purpose was still fitted . It was considered an unnecessary cost to re design and re tool to do away with it altogether.
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Gunman,
Thank you for your clarification on both the screw grip nut & the grading system.
The grading system has been discussed on this forum before & people still seem to confuse the grades. I often see 702 guns advertised for sale as 701 guns. The real 701 doesn't show up here for sale very often & I doubt many were sold because of price. A real shame as they are nice looking & well made guns of good materials.
FYI from the 1972 Gun Digest (the last year the 701 was listed in GD) retail pricing in US $ was: 700 @ $375, 702 @ $550 & 701 @ $750.
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