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Dear colleagues,
I consider to buy a new AyA boxlock #4. Could you share your opinion about this?
Is it worth? How is it comparing with the mass produced Brownings and Berettas?
Thank you in advance.

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Sorry, what do you mean? (Nie rozumiem Pana? O czym Pan mowi?)

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Sorry, no opinions?

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Hello Ivans

I have a AYA mod 25 boxlock,it's the same inside. I like it very
much.The mod #4 it's a quality gun with little longer barrels which I prefer),and for example in Denmark they love it for fieldhunting.You have to pay 10'000-15'000 dk kronor to get a used one.(if you can find one).

Regards Lennart

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They are serviceable but lack refinement and the kind of attention to detail you will get on a mid-grade British boxlock non-ejector of the 1920s. The latter are better guns and better value.

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While the Brit boxlocks of the 1920's may well be better guns, they're also at least half a century older guns, and they were not built to withstand the pressures generated by modern American 2 3/4" shells. So whether an old Brit boxlock is a better gun depends on several factors, a very important one being what you intend to shoot in the gun.

Note that I write the above as a fan of British boxlocks and as the owner of a pair of 1933 vintage Army & Navy boxlocks made by Scott. But one does have to understand their limitations in the 21st century shooting world.

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They may well be harder to find than AYAs in Ukraine!

However,used with the right ammunition (and 2 1/2" shells are ample for all game shooting)they have no more limitations than a modern foreign version.

In fact, they are better made and less liable to shoot loose in my experience.

The point about ammunition is a good one - if availability is an issue in Ukraine - if only 70mm shells are available, be sure to buy a gun chambered for them.

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I have an AYA No 4 deluxe 12 gauge and it is a fine gun in every respect. My gun has all the bells & whistles you would expect on a deluxe gun; nice wood, diamond grip, drop points, full coverage engraving, deluxe checkering, even a file-cut rib. I have never had any problems with the gun in any way. It produces very uniform patterns with No 5 and No 6 shot. I use it for pheasants and all other upland game except grouse. (It's really too nice for the grouse woods). I bought it secondhand for about half of its current price, so I wouldn't buy one as an investment. Also, for the price of a No 4 deluxe boxlock, you can almost buy a No 2 sidelock if you are buying new.

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thanks to all for such active participation!

Somebody guess: I'm choosing between new AyA #4 and used British boxlock.

Let suppose that there is no problem with ammo - it's available and used guns are too.

I prefere the 16 ga.

So what to buy?

AyA - is new gun, corresponding to modern requirements. It can be made with custom stock etc.

British boxlock - perfectly, thoroughly, made.

I like both.

I'm flustrated.

Help me, please.

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