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Any one know if a single shot Beretta marked 36ga the same as a 410?
I know that "sometimes" the Europeans marked the 410 as 36ga but not sure about Beretta. Although a flobert type action it appears to be fairly modern mfg.
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Last edited by skeettx; 12/05/12 12:36 PM.
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I believe that a .410 is 67.4 gauge.
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Steve maybe PeteM will pop in with a more detailed answer but in Europe (Germany?) some proof bureaucrat decided to call .410 36 gauge and make it the official designation and to stamp it on barrel flats. Four-ten is most certainly 67 gauge if you do the math.
So it is proper to call .410 36 gauge even though it is not really.
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Here's an article I wrote for the .410 website that pictorially shows the difference between a .410 and a 36 gauge (0.506")http://www.fourten.org.uk/36g410.html
Steve
Last edited by Rockdoc; 12/05/12 02:00 PM.
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410s have been referred to as 36 gauge ,rightly or wrongly for many years . I have to day rechambered a 410 2" to 3" , the chamber reamer I used is marked 410/36Ga .Cartridges are often marked as 410 and 36 Ga . I think it is safe to assume the gun you have is a 410 .
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Proof charts which show the smaller gauges show a 36ga as having a diameter of .506" & a 67.49ga as .410".
I think it probable that true 36ga guns were not in common production at least & someone decided to flatter the little pipsqueak a bit by just assigning it aa nice sounding gauge size a bit smaller than a 32ga & 36 seemed the next logial step.
It did need all the help it cold get, can you imagine going to the gun shop & saying I want a box of 67 point 49 gauge shells.
A pity they didn't actually just build the true 36ga instead, would have been a better platform for a half ounce of shot, not to mention trying to stuff the little thing with 3/4oz. Of course 32 gauge is the logical smallest desirable size for a shotgun other than a snake load for a pistol.
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Put an empty 410 hull in the breech and see what happens.
A friend has a Belgian 410 marked 10.4mm
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"Put an empty 410 hull in the breech and see what happens."
Wish I had one to try, will have to go through my junk box latter.
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I have a box of Victory brand 36 gauge shells. Made in Cyprus and CIP approved. The headstamp is 12mm. The load is 14 grams of #6. The length is stamped 50-60mm on the side of the box.
It's a twin to my US .410 shells.
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