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... Dave, It's my understanding that snakebite suction kits are no longer recommended for humans or animals.
Gil There are no poisonous snakes naturally occurring in Maine  , so I kinda fell behind on the latest recommendations in that department. 
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My lab was 40lbs when she was spayed. The vet prescribed 50mg twice a day. I've used 50mg just for muscular pain after a hard hunting day on her. Recently, the vet prescribed 50mg twice a day for her arthritis. From what I've read, Tramadol is a low side effect pain reliever.
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In recent years I've heard more and more not to use antiseptics for deep wounds. Is that correct? Chuck: The literature currently states that antiseptics such as Betadine or alcohol can be caustic to tissue and delay healing. Most dog wounds, though, would be considered dirty, eg, from a stub , fighting wild hogs, etc. I think benefit outweighs risk and would use an antiseptic trying to kill bacteria in a dirty wound, then rinse with saline or clean water before closing the wound. Just my opinion though.
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"snakebite suction kits are no longer recommended for humans or animals" is correct. The canine antivenom is expensive but quite effective if administered within 4 hours. My Vet is not a believer in the vaccine, and there are LOTS of snakebites in AZ http://www.findavet.us/2011/01/how-to-treat-your-dog-after-a-snake-bite/And re: closing wounds. Aggressive irrigation is needed (I use a saline eye solution squirt bottle) to be sure no foreign matter remains in the laceration.
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"snakebite suction kits are no longer recommended for humans or animals" is correct. The canine antivenom is expensive but quite effective if administered within 4 hours. My Vet is not a believer in the vaccine, and there are LOTS of snakebites in AZ http://www.findavet.us/2011/01/how-to-treat-your-dog-after-a-snake-bite/And re: closing wounds. Aggressive irrigation is needed (I use a saline eye solution squirt bottle) to be sure no foreign matter remains in the laceration. Couldn't agree more, Drew. Aggressive irrigation not only aids in flushing particulate matter from a wound, but probably flushes out bacteria as well.
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My understanding from my vets explanation is that the vaccine is western diamondback specific.
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Even though the vaccine is Western Diamondback specific it is my understanding that there is some spillover in protection to the other snakes. This includes Copperheads and the other rattlesnake varieties with the exception of the Mojave rattler. I know some Vets that ARE big believers in the vaccine having treated multiple dogs with and without prior vaccination. To me, anyway, if there is a chance it helps and with the cost pretty minimal, why not?? Very cheap insurance in my opinion. None of my dogs have had any adverse reactions other than an occasional slight swelling at the injection site.
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Mojave "green" rattlers have both hemotoxic and neurotoxic venom. Odds are that a person or dog bitten are not going to make it, if the snake dumped it's venom.
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I have been told the problem with comparing symptoms of vaccinated dogs bitten by rattlesnakes with symptoms of un-vaccinated victims is that about half the time the rattlesnake doesn't inject venom.
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