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I am looking to shoot this fine old 8 bore.
But questions:
1) I cant remove the forend- I got the slide all the way over but it still doesn't come off and it looks like someone broke off the foreend tip trying to pry it off before.
2)what did the forend tip look like that is now missing?
3)S/N is 21971 - how old is this gun?
4)Who has the WC Scott records?

Usually, the problem is that the slide has to come over "just a little bit more" to get out of the lug. Pull just a little harder. Many early guns have pry marks made by idiots trying to remove a forend.

Yank-


Welcome to the board. Sounds like a neat gun.

What do you mean by "slide"? Does this shotgun have a lever that pivots 90 degrees, or does it have a bolt that slips through the forend and you push out to one side?

Does the shotgun have hammers on it?

Don't know about the forend tip. I would would have to see pics.

The guns was probably made around 1876. All the records for Scotts that early are missing. But if you post pics, we can tell you a lot more about your gun.

If you don't know how to post pics, you can email them to me and I'll put them up for you.

My email is: hfn_03570@yahoo.com

Thanks

OWD

Yank:
the "slide" you refer to is actually called a wedge, and it travels from right to left through a "loop" attached to the bottom rib of the barrels. Eightbore is correct in that is must move further left to disengage this loop and release the forearm.

Try tapping the "slide" gently with a non-marring instrument like a brass punch of correct size. It may move far enough to release. If not, take the gun to a 'smith familiar with such things and have him try. (hint: if he's under 40 years old, don't let him).

The forend tip was likely a wedge of black horn.

Many Scott records are still in the hands of Gallyon's in the UK, but are unavailable for research.

Its a hammer gun with a swinging lever by the trigger guard that opens the breech.
the forend has a slide that holds it on like my earlier Parkers. Push on one side and it comes out the other.
It does not have a latch that pivots.
Its bbls are twist or damascus. So corroded can't really see pattern.

Thanks Kensal
do you know who could replace the horn piece?
Are there some good reference books on Scott guns of this vintage?
I will post a pic by tomorrow.

Yank:
You might try NECG for the forend.

Sadly, there is NO new book on Scott alone. The only one I know of is the old "The History of W. & C. Scott Gunmakers" by Crawford and Whatley. Out of print, but you might find one at abebooks.com

I have a copy of the book so may be able to identify the model from photos. The book is somewhat lacking in information at the side of other gun books by the likes of Dallas and Masters. The serial number does put it at 1876 according to the Scott book. I will be away for a few days so will lok upon my return if your questions have not been answered. Lagopus.....

Sometimes when the forend is really tight you can break the gun open after driving the wedge out and the forend will be released. Worth a try.

I will give that a try when i get home later.

I am perplexed as to what i will do for ammo. I need to look at those Remington industrial hulls in person.

Does anyone know what W&C used for chamber length? there is a stamp on the left bbl "3 1/2'. I assume this means 3 1/2 inches?