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Did it belong to Col. Anderson the author?

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Sorry, I'm going crazy trying to get the pictures open in the post. I can't seem to make the final step.

I would very much like to learn more about these guns.

For example, it might be interesting to find out how these guns' applications and performance compared to those of Paradox guns.

It sounds like the "slow twist" might be one that would be appropriate for round balls. Somehow, I have always believed that "ball and shot" were smoothbores.

Might I be correct in assuming that the rear sight leaves are "zeroed" for 50 and 100 yards?

I take it that the mould casts something other than a round ball.

The "Jungle Gun" is back together, still needs a bunch of cosmetic work as you can see from the pictures. Mark Beasland (MBAB) did really superb job rebuilding the safety.
I would like to take it out to the range and see if it will put a slug in a pie plate, better yet one from each barrel.
I need some guidance to work up a safe load. The chamber is 2 9/16", bore is .724" land to land and .729" grove to grove. Bores are excellent, no pitting.










Sorry for the double pics, this is my third try at getting this post up with the pics.

Any help wit a load out there?
Thanks, Jerry

Jerry, maybe smallbore could send you a few bullets to test. This screw grip appears to be the one used on my pair of 1911 sidelock ejector Evans guns, if you would care to look at them and compare. The linked thread about screw grips is very interesting reading, except for the missing linked pictures . Bill Murphy

Another nice old Webley . See the safe has been removed .

Though not a H&H, you do have a paradox and judging by the bores, it is worth a significant investment in restoration. Getting one to regulate is a fairly arcane science. Bell and Seyfried have written articles. For God's sake please do not put a full house slug through it. Probably the simplest place to start would be to order a box of Holland and Holland paradox ammunition which is in production and see how those rounds regulate. My William Evans shoots Seyfried's formula into a two-inch L/R L/R at a hundred yards which is better than most double rifles. I took it to Namibia in '08 and it was decisive on everything from warthog to sand grouse. Restore it and you will have a very special thing.

Gunman, I can't deterimine the maker from the copy of records I rec'd from Univ. of Glasgo. How do you know it was made by Webly?

The H & H Paradox 12 bore requires a minimum bore dia. of .735". I,ll have to do more reaseach.

Yes, the rifling does start a slow twist about 6" from the muzzle.

Thanks, Jerry

Webley screw grip top lever ,Webley intercepting sears . Webley style safe , which has been removed [in the picture shown of the gun with the stock off ] ,mounted at the rear of the trigger plate box .It looks like a Webley and Webley made many many guns like this for many different "makers".

Gunman, Thank You.
The safety pendulum is repaired, that's why the gun was dismanteled for so long. All mechanics work smoothly.

With a maxiom bore size of .729", what size ball would I use? Would I paperpatch it in the shell? Paper or brass shell?