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OWD
Yes, they are 12's. I can send pics if you would post for me. I don't have a hosting account.
My guns are labeled, G. Higham & Son, Warrington. Numbered #1 & #2 w/consecutive serial #s. Former owners have researched and documented the history and crests on these guns, and it is thought that the original owner was a relative of Lord Ripon.
They are also serial # by Scott on the bottom of the barrels and are also consecutive. Scott # 6011 & 6012 for 1875.

CFWs
What an interesting post about your Highams being built by Scott.
Here is some more ingrediants for the cake we are all baking.George Higham founded his business in Oswestry a market town on the Welsh border with England.His business expanded and he opened shops in Liverpool, Warrington, Weshpool (in Wales) and Bridgnorth a town on the river Severn where drovers crossed the river from Wales to sell cattle and sheep in Birmingham.Liverpool was a major port where ships sailed to Africa to exchange metal goods including Birmingham made guns for African labour (slaves) these Africans were then transported to America.George Higham as well as being a gunmaker was also an International Footballer who played for Wales.One of the first car owners in the Welsh border country he was killed when his car overturned off a drovers road and landed in the stream below, killing George and his wife.The bodies were found when the family Jack Russell returned home alone.His surviving sons and daughters emigrated to Australia and South Africa where they set up Gunsmithing business's in Sydney and Cape Town.
I have a delightful 4lb 10oz E J Higham of Warrington 28 guage.
This fascination with the Welsh border country for Birmingham gunmakers is a story in itself, as Greener built his big house not far from Oswestry in a place on the Welsh coast called Barmouth.

Salopian,
Thank you for the additional info. The pair was separated at one time and gun #2 was in the states, belonging to a collector in New York state. Apparently, this gun was for sale and a fellow from Virginia wanted it. In the mean time, the collector happened upon a listing for a G. Higham, gun #1 in a publication from your side. Apparently, he called and found that this was indeed the other gun and the dealer from UK would not move on his price when he found this out. So... the collector contacted the fellow in Virginia about gun #1 and he bought it, and then purchased #2 from the collector. He then sold the pair to my father at the Baltimore Gun Show and my father cased the pair.
Apparently, each gun was cased separately, and I have the original two tier cartridge case w/all accessories for gun #2, but #1's case is gone. I purchased the guns from my father 3 weeks before he pasted away. I have a folder full of info collected about the guns and the original family.

"People are simply not interested in them."

Part of the attraction of the English gamegun is the vision of the invited estate shoot. W&C Scott seems to have made it's mark as an export gun company - going to all four corners of the earth.

CFW-

Great. Send them to me here:

hfn_03570@yahoo.com

and I'll post them.

Thanks

OWD

Lowell,
That may be true considering that most Scott marked guns were made for export due to the fact that Scott supplied so many firms in England, that they considered marketing their own marked guns would be in competion with the firms already selling their guns.
British Gunmakers says it the best..." One has to wonder how many of those who might sneer at a Webley (or Scott) named gun or double rifle might actually have been using one for many years with another more exclusive name upon it, happily ignorant of the truth!"...
OWD.. I will get those pics to you... Thanks!

Another work of art (perfection) by an English firm............so what!!!
All the best

http://www.jblanchdatabase.co.uk/technical.htm

Above is an interseting link that mentions Scott guns.

This was not to mention workmanship, but the intangibles that come into play when buying a gun.
The English gun has become a free-for-all, when it comes to who and where the gun was made.

OWD, when describing my early experience at the Drifton, PA pigeon ring, I had forgotten a coincidental fact about my first experience there. I have related this as a wordy description of my "gun related" childhood on another site, but I will synopsize it here. My Dad paid my entry into a ten bird one shot race, ten dollars with a junior exemption (I was about 14) from the otherwise mandatory purse. At the end of the race, my score was a mediocre (but impressive to me) seven of ten killed in the ring. When I left the ring, one of the onlookers pressed a bill into my hand and congratulated me on my shooting. That was my first experience with the gambling tradition of PA flyer shooting. He had apparently won a few bucks on my fair to middling shooting. However, the most interesting thing is that I was shooting my favorite 1912 W&C Scott 16 gauge ejector, #90,362 as I remember it. It was a little 5 3/4 pound 26" gun that never failed to put 90% of its soft sixes into a 30" circle at 40 yards. Unfortunately, the little Scott has been gone for about 30 years. It was traded at Allentown, probably in the mid seventies. I wonder who owns it today? It has a plaque inletted into the stock near the butt describing it as a first place trophy for a race of the Corinthian Yacht Club of Philadelphia in 1912, the boat, The Tomboy. The hunt is on.