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At $4K, maybe. At $7K, no. For that money I could get a very nice Spanish sidelock with longer barrels. Or, I could get a Yildiz and an awful lot of ammo. I have an AOC/SG (Uggie) boxlock in .410, and it's hard to believe that the RBL .410 could be any nicer than the AOC.
I have two RBLs that I bought new (20 and 28), but it looks like I'm done with RBLs. Really like the ones I have, but Tony is getting nuts with his pricing.
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At $4K, maybe. At $7K, no. For that money I could get a very nice Spanish sidelock with longer barrels. Or, I could get a Yildiz and an awful lot of ammo. I have an AOC/SG (Uggie) boxlock in .410, and it's hard to believe that the RBL .410 could be any nicer than the AOC.
I have two RBLs that I bought new (20 and 28), but it looks like I'm done with RBLs. Really like the ones I have, but Tony is getting nuts with his pricing. He didn't own one of the first Enzo's in the country for nothing.
-Clif Watkins
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If it's true that there will only be 500 units, and you have to amortize the machine tools over that few guns, the price will reflect that. But, as covered above, that's still a lot of cash, given what you can get sidelock .410's for. I'm thrilled that we have a US company that has forged ahead with double gun and over/under sidelock production. However, I'm passing on this one.
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Hard to believe they will be standing in line at that price?
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Homeless, "the smaller they get the more they cost" Same way with bathing suits, right??
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USAF RET 1971-95
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To be fair though, 7k is about what it costs to re-stock a Purdey forend, so its all relative. The Inverness was quite the gun for 3 grand after discounts. I got to handle it more at length in Las Vegas and it was "English gun" nice. So much better than the dog that was my RBL 28
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Those who choose not to buy an RBL .410 won't matter. He'll easily sell all 500. I'm going to pass on it too. A 5 lb. gun is difficult to control, but it has a lot of appeal to the tiny-gun crowd. Bravo to Tony Galazan for his new effort, born in the USA. JR
Be strong, be of good courage. God bless America, long live the Republic.
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I learn something every day, and a lot of times it's that what I learned the day before was wrong
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If it's true that there will only be 500 units, and you have to amortize the machine tools over that few guns, the price will reflect that. He does not HAVE TO amortize his costs over only 500 guns, but it appears that he chooses to for marketing purposes. Creating an artificial rarity to drive up the price. It's all marketing, and my attitude is "screw him" for marketing that way. On the other hand, Tony is richer than I am so he must, therefore, be smarter than I am. Regarding the tooling, I know just enough about current machining processes to conclude that most of what he will have to amortize will be jigs and CNC programming. All of the actual machinery probably will be or has been amortized over the other guns he produces. So, he is trying to appeal to a certain snob factor by producing only 500 guns. They do look like nice guns and I would love to own one, but they just don't make economic sense from the perspective of a rational buyer. I'll just have to wait for the retro-launch edition with the 30" barrels and double triggers.
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To be fair though, 7k is about what it costs to re-stock a Purdey forend, so its all relative. The Inverness was quite the gun for 3 grand after discounts. I got to handle it more at length in Las Vegas and it was "English gun" nice. So much better than the dog that was my RBL 28 An RBL with laser burned checkering aint a Purdey. Not even the forend.
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