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#261543 - 01/19/12 12:44 AM Opinion On This One - With Pics
gjw Offline
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Registered: 12/15/06
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Hi all, so what's the opiniononthis one, prcie, quality and comment on the maker or gun would be great!!!

http://www.dismalriverarmory.com/goluchprewar16ga.html

Thanks as always!

Greg


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#261566 - 01/19/12 08:52 AM Re: Opinion On This One [Re: gjw]
Buchsemann Offline
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Registered: 05/30/10
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Loc: WI
It's a good looking hammer gun for sure. The rear screw on the left lock and what appeared at first to be zero wear on the barrels caught my attention as to wondering if it has had any restoration done (steel) but the close-up showing detail of the stock finish and what looks to be common wear on the rear barrel lug makes me think it could be the real thing. If it is 100% I wouldn't argue with the price. If I were in the market for such a gun I would bring it in and inspect it closer for signs of refinish and decide from there. It's nice. I'm not familiar with the maker (retailer?).

Buchseman

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#261576 - 01/19/12 10:56 AM Re: Opinion On This One [Re: Buchsemann]
m-4 Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
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That gun looks like the twin to my Franz Sodia 16 made in Ferlach Ausria in 1931, does it have any makers code on the water tables or bottom of the bbl's? Pin placement in the locks, hammers, bbl's all look to be the same. I would almost bet the name on the rib was just the retailer that sold it from his store, look at the engraving quality in his name atop the rib compared to the quality of the rest of the gun.

M-4

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#261588 - 01/19/12 01:40 PM Re: Opinion On This One [Re: gjw]
montenegrin Offline
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This is a Ferlach gun retailed by Carl Goluch of Linz between the wars. Goluch was also active post WWII.
BTW I think Hitler was not born in Linz but rather in Braunau.

With kind regards,
Jani

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#261594 - 01/19/12 02:23 PM Re: Opinion On This One [Re: gjw]
m-4 Offline
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Should have a 2 # digit code that will better identify who made it, I know that my Franz Sodia is an excellent gun that I really enjoy!
http://www.hallowellco.com/Ferlach%20gunmakers_code_numbers.htm
should help you identify the maker

M-4

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#261595 - 01/19/12 03:15 PM Re: Opinion On This One [Re: gjw]
montenegrin Offline
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The Ferlach 2-digit makers' codes were introduced in 1945 under British occupation.

With kind regards,
Jani

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#261602 - 01/19/12 03:32 PM Re: Opinion On This One [Re: montenegrin]
m-4 Offline
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Let's see the markings of the watertables & datastring on the bottomside of the bbl's to see if they reveal the answer.

M-4

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#261615 - 01/19/12 05:49 PM Re: Opinion On This One [Re: gjw]
ellenbr Offline
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Loc: North Alabama
Yeah, like Jani I think production between WWI & WWII. Don't know why but many hold his offerings in high regard. Looks as if the firm was still peddling sporting weapons post 1971. I too agree that this was sourced from the pool in Ferlach but from time to time one sees the name of other gunsmiths paired with Karl Goluch. He may have been an intermediate source. If it hasn't been re-touched, it is in top condition. The Prima Gewehr Lauf Stahl Fried. Krupp Essen is more than likely Ferlach recipe for Suhl's Weapons Grade Krupp steel. Just advertising for the most part and there may or may not be a difference in composition. Length of pull is quite short. I'd want to confirm the tubeset length as it should be an integer length like say 72cm, although a 1/2 integer like 71.5cm is possible.

He looks to have been at Herrenstraße 50, Linz.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

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#261685 - 01/20/12 10:07 AM Re: Opinion On This One [Re: gjw]
gjw Offline
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Hi all and thanks, well here are some pics of the bbl flats, so what can you tell me now on this one. I'm really interested in the maker and other info you can tell me.

Thanks again!



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#261710 - 01/20/12 02:06 PM Re: Opinion On This One [Re: gjw]
ellenbr Offline
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Originally Posted By: gjw




Experienced proof in Ferlach in 1931. Images of the area forward of the flats might point to a maker and should also contain a datastring.

M4's Sodia















Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

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