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Pod..I'm getting old too, n need glasses, I was also just joking, & I honestly meant no harm, only meant in fun,honest.I too apologize if you took it personally.Please don't think I'm an evil person.I'm sure your smarter than I am.Sorry once again
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Oh geez! It was this thin-skinned crap that started the US down the road (slippery slope) of political/social correctedness that we all suffer with today. Get over it!
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Thanks all. Now I am smarter is some ways.
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So, there were gunmaker's guilds which produced a sort of "product for hire" for the trade and put apprentices thru their paces with time-consuming, tour de force journeyman qualification projects (like a cabinetmaker approaching "puffy drawers" one shaving at a time) OR there weren't? Raimey's view and Kensal's appear to be in opposition. What is what? Brum certainly has some earmarks of a guild as does the London system of production. What is a "Worshipful Company of Gunmakers" if not a guild? I would think any organization which certifies the level of training and standard of workmanship of its members would qualify altho the name changes over time.
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Actually, what we call "guild guns" are pretty much any doubles with no name on them. As noted above, quite commonly seen coming out of Belgium and Germany. There are also a whole lot of French no-namers. The suggested term of "trade gun" is certainly more accurate, because these are guns made "in the trade". That is to say, the combined efforts of a barrelmaker, actioner, stock maker, etc--all outworkers, none of them working under the same roof--to produce a decent finished product. The Birmingham trade functioned pretty much the same way, the main difference being that someone's name got slapped on the Brummie trade gun before it was sold. Perhaps the owner of the shop which may have commissioned it, or finished it, or perhaps just sold it.
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Pod, just ignore them and stick around, please.
Franc and Kensal, don't hurt people
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I posted earlier because I saw it simply as nothing more than the type of good natured teasing that goes on among friends. I'll stand by what I said earlier, get over it!
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Gettin kinda owly aint ya, Steve?
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Ya Chuck, I'm afraid I've been a little grumpy lately. I should probably not post until I get in a better mood. I certainly don't want to be the kind of person I detest.
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John Boyd was telling the hard truth, even if there isn't an official 'Gun Dealers School'. THAT made me laugh!
Take a moment & do the same; be it yer next miss or reading more intoit than exists in the next posted comment. Exculpate and enjoy this exchange & sharing of information & perspectives, while we can.
I'll be quiet, for a while now.
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