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Let's keep this thread going. I'm not much of a photographer nor much a a picture subject, but I certainly am enjoying the great pix you guys are posting. When you can hunt Wisconsin grouse in December in just shirtsleeves, it seems a moral imperative to do so......
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Now hunting grouse with a hammer must take a lot of practice. I know some have the hammers cocked and gun broke open, but that seems like a lot of crud would get in the action preventing closing.
I have hunted phez with a hammer that was easy to cock both with one thumb. What's your way?
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Does anybody else think Greg and his dog look alike with that serious pose. Good looking dog by the way. Rick
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Does anybody else think Greg and his dog look alike with that serious pose. Good looking dog by the way. Rick Thanks Rick!! Good one!!! Yep, both grey around the muzzle, that's for sure!!! Thanks for the kind words about my Duchess, would not have scored without her. Thanks again and all the best! Greg
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Now hunting grouse with a hammer must take a lot of practice. I know some have the hammers cocked and gun broke open, but that seems like a lot of crud would get in the action preventing closing.
I have hunted phez with a hammer that was easy to cock both with one thumb. What's your way? You are absolutely right - it takes some practice, but after a while, I don't think pulling the hammers takes any longer than releasing the safe on my internal-hammer guns. I keep my thumb on the right hammer and when the bird flushes it's pulling the hammer back as the gun comes to my cheek. Left hammer is going back a millisecond after the right drops, if I need it ;-) I shoot this way in thick cover. If I'm shooting phesy or desert quail or something else where I'm walking along and not fighting for every move, I don't mind walking with the gun broke and hammers cocked - that allows for a quick shot too.
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One hammer at a time. If its a dove shoot you have time to cock'em both before the bird arrives. For quail, I cock both hammers at the point and point the gun up in the air.
I cannot even imagine breaking the gun open and trying not to drop the shells out while walking in on a point and trying to keep the muzzles in a safe direction. If a wild bird gets up I cock one hammer and shoot; if the other barrel is required, I try to cock it and get off a second shot.
I dislike having to thumb the hammer and lower it if I don't get off the shot. Its ok while on a dove stand or in a duck blind, but it seems risky to me while walking around in thick cover. A hammergun is just an affectation for me...Geo
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The foremost point is, whether cocking both at the same time or one at at time or letting a hammer down,.....muzzles in a safe direction.
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One hammer at a time. If its a dove shoot you have time to cock'em both before the bird arrives. For quail, I cock both hammers at the point and point the gun up in the air.
I cannot even imagine breaking the gun open and trying not to drop the shells out while walking in on a point and trying to keep the muzzles in a safe direction. If a wild bird gets up I cock one hammer and shoot; if the other barrel is required, I try to cock it and get off a second shot.
I dislike having to thumb the hammer and lower it if I don't get off the shot. Its ok while on a dove stand or in a duck blind, but it seems risky to me while walking around in thick cover. A hammergun is just an affectation for me...Geo All of which serves to explain why I avoid hammerguns.
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Ah, hammerless sporting arms are just a passing fad. They seem to be making a slow assent from their low. I wouldn't doubt that most of the purported game tally records were achieved via a hammergun.
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Here's the main point: ALL guns are incredibly dangerous and safety must be given top priority. "Out of sight, out of mind" seems to be fairly common with hunters. All guns have hammers--exposed or hidden--that need little urging to do their job. With an exposed hammer gun the risk of a misadventure is constantly being impressed on the shooter. I mean, those huge hammers stretching over the firing pins is a constant reminder that the utmost attention need be given. With a "hammerless" gun that threat is concealed and easily ignored or delayed. I think if really reviewed honestly most of us shooting hammerless guns have at one time or another forgotten that we had slid the safety off and forgotten it for a time. Nothing could be more dangerous. Hammer guns do not allow this slip to pass without notice.
When an old man dies a library burns to the ground. (Old African proverb)
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