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I have been drooling for a 20 bore SxS and really like the RBL offerings. However, the longest barrels they make are 28". I would prefer 29 or 30" barrels for better dynamics, given my tall statue (I'm 6'1" and prefer sub-gauge O/U hunting guns in 30" barrels).
For those of similar stature and who own the RBL 20 bore in 28" barrel, how do you find the handling dynamics?
Thanks.
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Servn99 - I have both the RBL20 with 28" barrels and the RBL28 with 28" and 30" barrels. As I noted in another post about 26" barrels, for me handling dynamics are more affected by balance than barrel length, and my 26"-barreled 16 ga. is so well-balanced that I never think about its barrel length.
That said, of my three RBLs, I have enjoyed shooting the 30" barrels on the RBL28 the most. I have shot both preserve pheasants and SCs with it, and the light weight (sub 6lbs) lets it point quickly but the extra length definitely provides a smoother, more sustained swing on crossing targets. I have only shot skeet with the 28" barrels, and found that I had to focus on keeping the gun moving on Skeet stations 3-5 in order to break targets consistently. (For comparison, I am 5'10"/165lbs).
CSMC can custom make barrels for an RBL but you don't want to know that they charge for that.
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Sernv99, handling dynamics are described by weight, balance (teeter-totter point, not some over-all judgement), unmounted swing effort, and mounted swing effort. These four are measurable and provide a quantified description of any individual gun. Of course, how individuals react to any given set of numbers - "fingerprint" if you will - will vary; this is why there is no general agreement as to what constitutes desirable handling. One man's go-to gun is another's pig-on-a-snow shovel.
Establishing a personal handling "fit" is functionaly the same as establishing a personal stock fit - except that we don't have handling fit pros (yet). So, you have to rely on your personal experience with guns. I have a data base of about 600 guns. Tell me what you like a lot and dislike a lot for one single shooting purpose. I don't have a RBL, but will make it a mission to get one if you are interested in pursuing determining the probability of satisfactory handling with the RBL.
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Ok..So I'm old..BUT either you can shoot or you cant...I do not believe that 1/2 inch in Bbl length or a 1/4 inch in drop or length will make or break a shooter. It seems to be another crutch, in this day of excuses for poor performance. I shoot a lot and hunt a lot, change guns almost every day..And I am a hell of a shot...
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Ok..So I'm old..BUT either you can shoot or you cant (mmmmm, I'd say it is analog, not binary; and probably normally distributed)...I do not believe that 1/2 inch in Bbl length or a 1/4 inch in drop or length will make or break a shooter (probably not, but it may allow him to shoot his best). It seems to be another crutch, in this day of excuses for poor performance ( if a rifle's sights are not aligned to POI, you should learn to hold off? Why not fit your shotgun as accurately as you can/your budget allows?) . I shoot a lot and hunt a lot, change guns almost every day..And I am a hell of a shot... ( I agree!!! What, you think I'm going to disagree with a hell of a shot? )
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Sernv99
You might look at the Browning 20g SxS in 28" if you want more "swing weight". The Browning has much heavier barrels and swings like a gun with seemingly longer barrels. They're enough cheaper that you'll have money left to buy a lot of shells.
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I am 6'1", 220#, and have an RBL 20. I think it handles great. I love shooting it and hunt with it regularly. Although, I must admit I don't think my technique is sufficiently refined to notice a 1" difference in barrel length. I hope to get there someday, though.
--shinbone
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Rocketman, I guess I am a bit weary of trying to overwhelm everything with technology..We have taken the "Primitive weapons" thing so far away from it's original purpose, that it isnt anymore...I have said before in this forum, that I am constantly amused here at "Hunters Ranch" watching guys change chokes, insert spacers, add cheek fillers, and.......continue missing birds...I suppose if I were shooting clays in competition for money, I might want to tweak the iron. I shoot in 2 leagues for fun, with whatever gun suits my fancy that day, and enjoy the heck out of it...I think thats what this sport is all about..Thanks for the compliment on my shooting, My student, Amarillo Mike, has benefited greatly from my advice..
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