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#246080 - 09/30/11 03:56 PM robust 238
nek69 Offline
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Registered: 01/22/09
Posts: 5
Loc: Greece
I need help with a robust No26-E 16ga. that I own. If possible, I would like to know the year of manufacture of this shotgun. The number of the shotgun is 133383. Here are some pictures. Any help will be much appreciated.


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Edited by nek69 (09/30/11 04:18 PM)

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#246087 - 09/30/11 04:37 PM Re: robust 238 [Re: nek69]
Rockdoc Offline
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Registered: 02/28/02
Posts: 2415
Loc: On the road less traveled...
Very nice Robust, with ejectors no less. I think it's choked modified and full and has standard proofs. I don't know when it was made, but others on the forum might be able to help. Wish I could find something like that here, and had the $$$ to buy it when I did.
Steve
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#246112 - 09/30/11 07:28 PM Re: robust 238 [Re: nek69]
ed good Offline
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Registered: 01/25/02
Posts: 2415
Loc: nh
69: as i recall, i read some where that the robust model number is also the year of manufacture. so, a model 26 was made in 1926? nice looking gun. wee wee...


Edited by ed good (09/30/11 07:29 PM)

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#246114 - 09/30/11 07:38 PM Re: robust 238 [Re: nek69]
ed good Offline
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Loc: nh
well, not exactly right. seems like the model numbers are linear by year... the first ones were made in 1913. that was the model 1. so, a model 26 was made in: 1913, plus 25, equals 1938?

see: http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=259500 for more about robust guns.

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#246338 - 10/02/11 07:20 AM Re: robust 238 [Re: nek69]
L. Brown Offline
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Registered: 01/01/02
Posts: 7175
Loc: Iowa
Has to be post-1924. That's when "normal" was added to the French proofmarks. Would also have to be after France joined the CIP, because the 850 kilos is the required standard CIP proof pressure. Prior to that, St. Etienne guns carried a different proof pressure mark: crossed palms enclosing a crown, on the underside of each barrel forward of the flats. But I don't know when France adopted the CIP rules, although I think it was post-WWII. The visible "step", where barrels meet the monobloc, indicate that it's not one of the last Robusts, because those guns no longer had the "stepped" barrels.

Nice gun, and appears to be in unusually good condition.

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#246476 - 10/02/11 09:42 PM Re: robust 238 [Re: nek69]
Mike A. Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 788
Loc: OC, CA
What a nice gun; just enough of everything: triggers, barrels, "bore size," scrolls, and all.

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#246482 - 10/02/11 10:08 PM Re: robust 238 [Re: nek69]
Rockdoc Offline
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It's hard to believe that the Robust is a French hardware store gun.
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#246483 - 10/02/11 10:10 PM Re: robust 238 [Re: nek69]
ed good Offline
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Registered: 01/25/02
Posts: 2415
Loc: nh
rock: if like the way their hardware store guns look, you should check out the gal at the cash register. ou la la...chassie la femme!

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#246518 - 10/03/11 06:47 AM Re: robust 238 [Re: Rockdoc]
L. Brown Offline
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Registered: 01/01/02
Posts: 7175
Loc: Iowa
In terms of quantity produced, the Robust is certainly the equivalent of the Stevens 311. However, in terms of quality, that Frenchie is way out in front.

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#246572 - 10/03/11 12:37 PM Re: robust 238 [Re: nek69]
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Registered: 07/29/05
Posts: 1760
Loc: Livingston, MT
Nice gun... my next Fine Gunmaking column will be about a Manufrance Robust.
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