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I am trying to track down an approximate year range. The is a sxs that has the following markings.
Springfield Arms Company Chicopee Falls, Mass, U.S.A. Pat.Apr 20-1915 Serial Number T701XX
So, how long did Stevens use the Springfield name?
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According to the "Gun Trader's Guide" the Springfield name was discontinued in 1948. Perhaps others can confrm or refute. The 1915 patent date indicates it as a Model 315 Stevens, which looks very similar to the 311 line except it is striker fired rather than having internal hammers. If you note the two pins through the rear of the frame on the 315 the rear pin will be higher than the front one, while on the 311, 530, Fox B etc the rear one is lower. This is because of the different sear arrangment. Incidently I learned that from Russ, how we Miss his vast Knowledge!!
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I have a 5100 that is marked Springfield.
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Miller, thanks. I know there is an early and late model. But can not find any info on how to tell them apart.
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I have a 5100 that is marked Springfield. Me too.
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Stevens Springfield Dating? Personally, I would never date someone named Stevens or Springfield, but if it floats your boat....
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Connie Stevens? Dusty Springfield? Am I showing how old I am?
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Connie Stevens? Dusty Springfield? Am I showing how old I am? Either of those in a heatbeat (except Dusty's dead).
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The gun in question is a 410. It does not have the appearance of the usual flat sided 311, plus the patent date interested me. I was hoping to get a better idea of exactly when Stevens started offering a 410 sxs. The reason has to with better understanding the history and development in this country. Gabriel in his book on the 410 states that Parker was definitely the 1st American company to offer a sxs in 410. I am not sure that is accurate, so am attempting to track down other possibilities. I believe that Stevens, Crescent, Johnson, Hopkins or Harrington could have had an offering in the market place before then. Here is the gun: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=65367377The serial number alone tells me this was a later manufactured gun, but I am still curious as to how early they offered them in 410. I suppose I could buy reprints of every maker's catalog for a 10 year span, but I am also aware that sometimes a company will offer a gun that is not in their catalogs. So they are not a final avenue. Pete
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It'll probably have short chambers. I had one like it ten years ago, a real beater, and sold it for $150.00. There is a weakness in this design involving the cocking yoke. But even if it breaks it is easy to fix. Good luck with your Oldie.
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