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Two smooth barrels 16G made from Bernard-I damascus, rifled barrel from fluid steel. Caliber seems Mauser 11,15x60R. Roux lever. The sign on top reeb, the man from Breslau, I believe he was seller.
I wonder what is two letters mean SS (its not Sauer) on rifled barrel, gun maker or barrel maker? I guess Raymey could explain this
Photos (many photos!) are here
http://www.gallery.conclav.ru/division/gallery_69.html

Geno, yeah you are correct on the firearms merchant. At a quick glance at many of the extensive images I guess it to be a Meffert Treff(coil springs), or variant, and not for the domestic German market per se. Meffert seemed to have a strong sourcing line to the Zella-Mehlis contingent of craftsmen for this Treff variant with the Roux type underlever. "SS"( with a punch mark) is very common on those as well as "GS" and for now I guess those initials to point to some of the Schilling klan. GGCA publication No. 41/Fall/Winter 2009 page 12 has a Chinaman's hammer Lefaucheux type dreil�ufer peddled by C. Stiegele of M�nchen with the same stamp. I have little confidence that Stiegele applied much effort to the elaborate weapon. Their initials tend to have the over-strike on the "S" where the Sauer "S" or "S"s did not have that. Lower tube is from the Schilling forge and I would bet the pattern welded tubes were sourced from Liege as you indicate. Very interesting switcher/safety in the triggerbow guard as well as the stamp "Belgien 106297"??? I assume the selector is on the top tang?? I suspect the patent number on the top rib is for the pop up sight; note the lever in the doll's-head well in the receiver. Hopefully Axel or Shotgun Charlie has a reference on the patent numbers.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

This Drilling was retailed by Paul Mossiers, Junkernstr., Breslau, Silesia, who opened his business in 1897.
It is made to Jacob Roehmer's German Patent DRP #72583, 10.14.1892
see: http://depatisnet.dpma.de/DepatisNet/depatisnet?action=pdf&docid=DE000000072583A
for the set/single trigger arrangement. Jacob Roehmer, Suhl was the manager of the "R�merwerk", mostly a machine shop and parts factory supplying the guntrade, though they made guns of their own too, like the unique "Roemerpistole",which could be converted to a selfloading rifle, or the selfloading "Beckerflinte" shotgun. Many "name" gunmakers like Dornheim, Greifelt, Thieme & Schlegelmilch, Stadelmann, several Kesslers, Funks, Jungs were shareholders.

By the early 1900s a cat named Gabriel was the owner of the concern on Junkernstra�e.




Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse