S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums10
Topics38,480
Posts545,225
Members14,410
|
Most Online1,335 Apr 27th, 2024
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 6,881
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 6,881 |
Mike,
Taking a look at the 1889 Merwin, Hulbert, & Co, catalog, I note that the Scott Premier is going for $300 ($315 in 10 gauge.) The finest "Quality A" Parker could be had for $240 and the "Quality AA" LC Smith for $270. Only the "Highest Quality" Westley Richards gun is in the same price range as the Premier. Winchester '73 rifles started at $17.
Ken Now we need our friends from the UK to post prices of other doubles from the same time period.
MP Sadly Deceased as of 2/17/2014
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 259
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 259 |
Specifications of Imperial Premier, Serial # 102XXX Manufactured c.1920 1 of 3 purchased by the original owner in China via Holland & Holland 12 Gauge 2-¾ inch chambers Double trigger semi-pistol grip English walnut stock, splinter forearm Butt checkered inside of heavily engraved skeleton butt plate
Holland & Holland style locks, gold plated internals Scott’s improved square cross top bolt with double under bolts Side clips Birmingham nitro proofed for 1¼-ounce loads
30 inch barrels with flat file cut rib Barrel wall thickness @ 9” from breech is 0.059 Right and left tubes taper from breech to chokes 0.734 to 0.730 Choke Right: 0.730-0.717=0.013 choke (¼) Choke Left: 0.730-0.691=0.039 choke (full)
Barrel address reads: “W. & C. Scott & Son Makers The Imperial Premier Shaftesbury Avenue London”
Lock-up is tight Barrels are on face Locks are in good shape Ejectors function perfectly
Stock drop at heal 2 ¼, comb 1-3/8 Stock length at heel 14-3/16, center 14, toe 14-5/8 No cast apparent
Gun came cased with all accessories, i.e., snap caps, chamber brush, nickel -plated oil bottle, pull-through brush, ebony cleaning rod, reloading tools, sling, spare firing pins in an ivory bottle, etc. Snap caps, oil bottle, and other accoutrements are labeled “Holland & Holland”.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,588 Likes: 9
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,588 Likes: 9 |
Retriever,
I wondered if you were still visiting this site. I thought the pictures might draw you out of the background. Check your email!
Best regards,
Mike
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 |
Beautiful gun.
I noticed you said "1 of 3 purchased by the original owner in China".....We have the "Czars Parker" could this be the "Emperors W & C Scott" ?
Mike wouldn't you like to whip the guy that put that rubber pad on your hammergun.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,588 Likes: 9
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,588 Likes: 9 |
Beautiful gun.
Mike wouldn't you like to whip the guy that put that rubber pad on your hammergun. Uh, no. When I found the gun it had a 2" wood extension and a Pachmayer White Line pad on it. The new pad is much more appropriate for the gun.
Mike
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 |
I should've said the guy that took off the engraved steel skeleton butt plate.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 |
Here's nice Premier. I've looked at it in person. it's a nice gun without allot of issues, I don't think it's as nice as the pictures make it. It also has allot of drop and it wasn't choked tight enough to suit me or I would've bought it. http://www.drake.net/products/W.--C.-Sco...n-1878?id=28590
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 9
Junior Member
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 9 |
HomelessjOe I am still searching for information regarding when and who did the restoration. My assumption is the restortation was done in England after 1954 from the Birmingham proof marking on the barrels. The previous owner, who had placed the gun on consignment, told me he had purchased the gun 12 to 15 years ago at a Ruffed Grouse Society fund raiser in Minnesota. He said he used it only one time on a plantation quail hunt in Georgia during his ownership. Unlike “rabbit ear” hammers the low profile hammers do not allow bridging both to cock at the same time due to the obstruction of the opening lever. Other than that, I rather like the low profile hammers. It was interesting to discover I had the old 1886 Forest and Stream magazine in my collection that showed an advertisement for W&C Scott hammer guns with a serial number only 238 from this gun. Too bad the copy had to be reduced to post the picture of the magazine cover. It makes much of the small print impossible to read. Utah Shotgunner I am certainly glad you have the $50.00 gift certificate and I have the gun.
No one ever said on his death bed, "Gee, I wish I had spent more time at the office".
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,588 Likes: 9
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,588 Likes: 9 |
Mike
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 241
Member
|
Member
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 241 |
Thanks to all for a most enjoyable evening.
|
|
|
|
|