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Extraordinaire! Thanks, Geno. With kind regards, Jani
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Very nice, Geno, thanks for posting. What about the barrels? They look to have a hammered finish, but may be damascus that is not showing up clearly with the reflections. The proportions of the barrels to the breech area are amazing. It is one big bore double on which the barrels do not look "too big for the action". What is the nationality of Tecshner, or is it Teschner? It is a beautiful gun.
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A true rarity. I wonder where he procured ammo? The tubes weren't carded or worked smooth. You can actually feel the effect the acid had on the iron vs. the steel. Rigby offered them at one time and there was also a Germanic or Austrian version. Georg Teschner was German and Wilhelm Collath acquired his shop.
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I am sure it must be as Geno says, but the scale of the gun does not appear to be 8 gauge.
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Geno you come up with some really neat guns and rifles for us to see. Thanks for the images of this Tecshner. Looking forward to hearing more about it.
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If the stamp is Teschner's bore/gauge number it would be a 28 bore; 0 was 10 bore and 8 was 28 bore with the others staggered in between.
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Geno,
Is it known who the gun was made for? Obviously royalty of some sort of from the crown, but..?? What else is known about it? Thanks for sharing the pics.
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Sure doesn't look like an eight gauge, Geno.
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Yep, right, Teschner got his own caliber scale and 8 meant 28G, but why there are bears and boar engraved, maybe it was double rifle? Barrels made of Turkish damascus
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Well, it is a beautiful gun. A 28ga double rifle would give a bore of .55". If it is a DR then it is missing the rear sight. If it is a shotgun, like Geno, the engraving makes no sense to me. Pictures on the web rarely do a gun justice. I believe that is a higher grade of damascus than it appears. It is etched, which was common for German guns and some high end Belgian guns. Who would have a 7 pointed crown? Teschner was succeeded by Collath. Take a look a the Collath double rifle at bottom of this page: http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20allemande/artisan%20c%20d/a%20collath%20w%20%20gb.htm A similar, but less grade gun. Pete
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This gun made I believe before W.Collath succeeded Georg Teschner company in the 1890s, thou he was Teschner partner since 1870 and jumped in 1859. By marks on "flats" it was made before 1898. Second there is sign om top rib G.Teschner & Co. in Frankfurt...
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A bear den gun? Some authorities argued that a shotgun is better then a double rifle to shoot a bear roused from the den, because, at the point-blank range typical of the situation, accuracy is unnecessary, and the quicker aim down the rib without the rear sight is an advantage (remember, Buturlin advised to do away with the front sight, too). Could there be a deducated smoothbore rear-sight-less slug gun? Just a guess.
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Alexey, I believe it was liberated gun from Germany and there is nothing to do with Russian customs in this case. But it could be double rifle for short distance shooting and without rear sight, notice very wide top rib and of cause engraved game scenes point to big game shooting gun. I hardly believe some royalties could order smooth bore bird gun with somersault bears on box.
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BTW, about bears. There is very interesting video where young bear kills big boar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHbTmISk8kw
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Alexey, I believe it was liberated gun from Germany and there is nothing to do with Russian customs in this case.
I wonder if there is a reliable way to tell if the gun was "liberated" or if it remained from earlier times? The owner's words are not to be trusted entirely. You know how many postwar guns were sold as "a Goering's gun". I think it's not always a fraud, just stereotypical thiinking: "if it's old and German, then it was a war trophy". Sometimes, this comes from original owners - I've been talking with my Grandfather a lot lately, and he recalls that after the war and all the way through the 1960's people were afraid to admit they had money (if they did). So, if they got a "luxury", like an expensive shotgun, and someone asked where it came from, they often lied. "I got it as a bonus", "I won it at the lottery", "I brought it back from Germany"...
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I wonder if it was part of a two barrel set with another set of rifle barrels somewhere. I have a 24 bore shotgun which I suspect should have a set of rifle barrels but sadly the Maker's records are missing for that number so I can't be sure. Lagopus.....
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Lagopus, that is an interesting theory. On the other hand, such gun (DR) would have set triggers, so maybe it's not very probable. With kind regards, Jani
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