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bobski #548448 06/17/19 08:06 AM
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2007 to 2019 quite a slow reaction time bObski....

Just saying.

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ole claude............



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I have skeet guns with Purbaugh, SkeetMaster, and Briley tube sets.

All work well

I even have a couple of home made tubes, they are rough but do function smile


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I sold my last purbaugh tube set 3 years ago. sad to see it go but a short stocky fellow had to have my 26" k32 tubed skeet gun.


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The only way I would ever consider using a tubed clays gun is if I could have a carrier barrel set to accept them that, with tubes installed, closely matched the weight and handling characteristics of my 12 ga. barrels. When I compete in sub-gauge sporting events I use different guns for each gauge. Not ideal, I know, but IMO no worse than tubes in a 12 ga. barrel set that increase the weight of it by the weight of the tubes.

There's a lot of folks who love them, tho'.

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a carrier bbl is a new concept created to address the issue of weight.
personally, I think its silly, since 99% of skeet shooters like to weigh their guns UP.
the external bbl weight was designed to be attached to the 12ga bbl when the owner shot the 12ga events. the weight matched the weight of the tubes. this concept has been in place for decades and was accepted as the norm.
but...the vast majority of 12ga o&u's kick, so the vast majority of 12ga events ended up being shot with semi autos. it wasn't uncommon to see all the tube owners break out their semis for the 12ga and doubles events.
then, all of a sudden, everyone just did away with 12ga ammo and guns and shot the 12ga events with 20ga guns.

so...here comes the carrier concept. why?
makes no sense since weighing the light 12ga guns up was always the goal.

this is why to this day, I feel the 4 bbl set concept wins the day. 4 bbls, 4 gauges, all the same weight.


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Originally Posted By: bobski
a carrier bbl is a new concept created to address the issue of weight.
personally, I think its silly, since 99% of skeet shooters like to weigh their guns UP.
the external bbl weight was designed to be attached to the 12ga bbl when the owner shot the 12ga events. the weight matched the weight of the tubes. this concept has been in place for decades and was accepted as the norm.
but...the vast majority of 12ga o&u's kick, so the vast majority of 12ga events ended up being shot with semi autos. it wasn't uncommon to see all the tube owners break out their semis for the 12ga and doubles events.
then, all of a sudden, everyone just did away with 12ga ammo and guns and shot the 12ga events with 20ga guns.

so...here comes the carrier concept. why?
makes no sense since weighing the light 12ga guns up was always the goal.

this is why to this day, I feel the 4 bbl set concept wins the day. 4 bbls, 4 gauges, all the same weight.


No, it's not about weight only, it's about handling ..... what your muscle memory feels when you shoulder a gun and swing it. The whole world doesn't revolve around skeet shooters, and what they like, either. Carrier barrels make perfect sense when you're really serious about sub gauge sporting clay competition.

Nothing wrong with a 4 barrel set, as long as they all have the same handling characteristics. Many do not.

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that was the intent of the 4 bbls being exactly the same.


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A little bit of a drift here.
I need a barrel hanger (band) for a Remington 3200
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Stan, the problem with the four barrel sets was that the sight picture was very different from 12-20-28 then a major drop off to .410. You could get them to balance the same with a bit of work. Then you had to make sure the POI was all the same, many were not. Tube sets had the exact same sight picture. Plus many shooters liked the extra weight on a sustained lead type of game. I find 9.5-10.5 guns too heavy these days. 6.5-8 works well for me.

I have shot them all. Four pump guns, four semi autos, four barrel sets, tube sets, 20 ga 1100 concerted to 28 &.410, 25 1/2”, 26”, 28”, 30”, 32 and even 34”. In the end they all worked when I did my part. It’s the Indian not the bow or arrow.

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