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Jammy I wouldn't use yer name anywhere...I wouldn't want people thinking I'm some mOron named Jimmy W.

And this is why this board is slowly losing it's appeal.

It seems there a couple of guys on here that like to stalk me...what do you suggest I do ?

Move to Kalifornia.

Got along without ya before I met ya, Fido.

jack

A woman joins a convent and takes a vow of silence, she can only speak two words a year and only to the sister superior. After one year the sister superior asks her what she has to say. Her response is “Bad food!”. The sister superior admonishes her for complaining and sends her away. The second year her response is “Bad beds!” Again the sister superior admonishes her and sends her away. The third year her response is “I Quit!!!” To which the sister superior says “Leave then, because all you’ve done since you got here is complain!”
I’ve grown to enjoy jOes simple, to the point, one liners, they remind me of that joke.
Steve

Not to spoil anyone's fun by reverting to the subject, but... the calculations of the effect of a swinging barrel on the horizontal axis of the (non plastic cup-wadded)shot string whilst being interesting in themselves, can be tested against experiment.

I've tried to produce the effect by rapidly swinging a gun (felt wads)and shooting at a pattern plate ... nothing.

I suspect this is for two reasons; the effect if any is very small, and at the moment of ignition the recoil stops most of the swinging motion anyway. In any case try as I might I never saw any much difference in the patterns thrown by a swinging barrel as against a still one.

You can get a rough idea of the comparative length of a shot string by listening to it hit the pattern board.

Eug

Hello Eug,

Glad you brought the topic back.

Given that the shot charge flies in the shape of a fat sausage, I still find it improbable,
nay, impossible to alter its shape by swinging the barrels, considering the speeds
involved.

JC

Ought to be easy enough to find out. Just park the trailer Brister's wife was pulling the billboard around with and shoot it standing still; once at benchrest, and once with a quick swinging follow though...Geo

The point of impact will surely vary, not the shape of the pattern.

Still, I think a billboard/patterning board does not represent what is actually
happening in the air between the shot swarm and the target. It is two against
three dimensions.

JC

JC. Mrs. Brister was white-knuckling the steering wheel in an unhardened Estate Wagon but was also representing the speed over the ground of a flying target. Admittedly, a duck can't elongate to the width of a bed sheet to catch all the shot but can sure as hell be in a position relative to late-arriving pellets to catch a few. If size of pattern improves your chances of a hit, then it's pretty easy to hypothesize that stringing (a "wider" pattern as a 2D representation of the time of arrival of all shot made grossly obvious by the movement of a very large plane or target normal to the passage of shot) would also improve your chances IF the shot population of stragglers was large enuf to put the required 3 to 5 into a crosser. Big and probably not very practical IF. I personally think the "garden hose" analogy is useful if not misunderstood. A lot of shooters pull away, or "follow thru" or flick ahead AS IF a sudden acceleration of gun speed would disperse shot laterally; no harm in what they believe to be the case as the action puts the muzzle ahead of the bird. Another case of doing the right thing for the wrong reasons.

jack