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QTRHRS, which items in the GR auction do you wish you had bid higher? By the way, the guns on GR that sell for a low price are those the owner should be happy to see "gone".
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I'm skeptical that Mr. Dog is really selling every one of those guns. Maybe he is, maybe he ain't.
There's a seller on Ebay of machine tools - Reliable in LA, who has similarly astounding auction results. Even when guys who know machine tools are amazed at the high dollars he gets for crap.
In fact, he's attracted enough attention that people have gone out of their way to analyze several of his auctions - and proven beyond any doubt he is shill bidding his own stuff. Often, he sells items to himself, it would seem. People have complained to Ebay with solid proof but of course Ebay is not about to pursue action against a top seller.
I know I'm a lot older than most of you guys but I'll tell you something you learn in life....if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Could be true, BUT if an item sells no matter who buys it, the seller pays the auction fee. If the guy is buying or shill buying he could run up some serious fees pretty quick. Ebay likes high volume cuz they get a piece of every sale. I would suppose that gunbroker does too - only a fool auction site would not. Dr.WtS
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IMO: The biggest problems with gunbroker are as follows:
*No re-listing fees which leads to endless listings of the same crap ala Sly.
*Reserve auctions and high starting prices**. Eliminate them and you've eliminated one of the most seriously abused areas.
As I stated earlier unless I'm looking for something specific anymore which is rare I avoid gunbroker since I believe it's a waste of time.
I will check out the gunrunner auction site as suggested and see how the run things.
**When I have sold items in the past I've started my auctions at 99 cents.
Gun auctions to me are a lot like Texas Holdem. If you not a big enough boy to play with the others stay the hell out of the game.
Jim
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I too have gotten about fed up with wasting my time scrolling through the same crap with outlandish reserve prices. I wonder if you could get ejected from these sites if you clicked on "Ask seller a question" in these auctions, and asked things like, "Dear Sir, I noticed that the reserve price on this gun is far above it's current market value... did you perhaps allow a hydrocephalic monkey to set the reserve?"
This would be lots of fun, especially on AuctionArms, where your questions are posted to the auction. I'd say 75% of the time when I ask a question on GB on these "Reserve" Auctions, I get zero reply. And I mean simple questions, like what are the chokes???
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I'd say 75% of the time when I ask a question on GB on these "Reserve" Auctions, I get zero reply. And I mean simple questions, like what are the chokes???
Same here. Especially surprising when the seller seems to be a legitimate dealer rather than a hobbyist.
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Setting a hidden reserve sets in motion a "reverse auction" at a glacial pace as week after week and reposting after reposting prospective buyers patiently hunt for reduced but still hidden reserves. The same can be done to a local consignment gun by the simple act of walking away and coming back later to check the tag. I see nothing wrong with a high starting bid as candor concerning one's ridiculous expectations causes no one additional effort above and beyond looking at the ad and a scoffing ejaculation. The problem with penny starts is Christmas week and SuperBowl Sunday. Despite the presupposed mass audience, you might just get your one cent in a thin auction crowd. Won't catch me bragging on Texas Holdem as an eleemosynary activity!
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Setting a hidden reserve sets in motion a "reverse auction" at a glacial pace as week after week and reposting after reposting prospective buyers patiently hunt for reduced but still hidden reserves. The same can be done to a local consignment gun by the simple act of walking away and coming back later to check the tag. I see nothing wrong with a high starting bid as candor concerning one's ridiculous expectations causes no one additional effort above and beyond looking at the ad and a scoffing ejaculation. The problem with penny starts is Christmas week and SuperBowl Sunday. Despite the presupposed mass audience, you might just get your one cent in a thin auction crowd. Won't catch me bragging on Texas Holdem as an eleemosynary activity!
jack That can happen. I just listed a used Benelli Camo buttstock for a SBE starting at 5 cents two weeks ago. Figured it would sell for at least 75 bucks (price a new one). It sold for the 5 cents. That wasn't a gun of course, but bottom line is it take 2 at least to bid something up when auctions start at 1 cent. PS. I don't think that would happen with any Parker, Fox, Ithaca, etc. Parts fall into a totally different category for sure.
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On GunBroker, the 'auto-bid' feature pegs your initial bid, if high enough, at the reserve price. I usually bid what I'd like to buy it for and if it fails to satisfy the reserve, I walk away and let someone else find the reserve...Geo
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The one penny bids are for sellers that have found their audience. Jack the Dog and gunrunner have found their audience by fair dealing and will not be victimized by a one cent sale.
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That can happen. I just listed a used Benelli Camo buttstock for a SBE starting at 5 cents two weeks ago. Figured it would sell for at least 75 bucks (price a new one). It sold for the 5 cents. That wasn't a gun of course, but bottom line is it take 2 at least to bid something up when auctions start at 1 cent. PS. I don't think that would happen with any Parker, Fox, Ithaca, etc. Parts fall into a totally different category for sure.
$.o1 auctions are for sellers who get the guns and gun parts they have listed from consignors and have no cost invested.
When you pay for something, like your SBE stock, a reserve of $75 would have been the way to go. You must remember that anyone really wanting to buy a SBE stock may take weeks to even find your listing, so a reserve keeps it active until enough buyers can locate your item so you can at least get a fair shot of recovering at least a fraction of your cost in the item.
As it is, it could be very likely your SBE stock will show up again for sale by your buyer at starting bid of $75 and that will make you feel a little cheated.
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