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Hi folks, I've just completed my second and final case colour hardening for the W.W Greener. I've created a video which also has pictures of the final results. I'm EXTREMELY happy with the results of this one. What is absolutely clear is that bolting parts to thick 4-5mm steal as a blocker/packer makes a huge difference to the quality and colour of the hardened pieces...tremendous difference... Please take a look! Oh and no funny comments...I'm the guy sitting down at the table. I've just had leg surgary, in fact, lost my leg so that's why I'm doing the easy part...for now..  http://www.vintageshotgun.com/?p=630Regards, T
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Yes no gloves.Yikes.
Intersting pictures thanks for those...do you have the video?? Yes, I have it. I purchased it a couple of years ago from the Marlin Collectors. Here is the contact I had at the time, if any one is interested, Harvey Frakes MFCA 217-585-3454 between 6pm & 10pm CST The CCH process is a small part of this silent 2 reeler (about 25 minutes total running time). They go through all the steps for making a Marlin at the factory. It is fascinating to watch. Pete
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What is absolutely clear is that bolting parts to thick 4-5mm steal as a blocker/packer makes a huge difference to the quality and colour of the hardened pieces...tremendous difference...
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Amen, only way to go with the small parts Tony....they look super, great job there Mate........ The thick plates act like a 'heat sink' and help transfer-retain heat to the smaller pieces..... So which 'barn' are they moving you to.........?......... Best,
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Thanks Doug! Really pleased with the results. We live on a farm so have 3 to choose from. From the wifery perspective probably the farthest away!
Will post the pics here too when I get a moment.
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If you have any more pieces to case, or on the next gun, since you live on a farm, try adding a little 'hoof' material here and there in your crucible.....evenly spaced pieces top to bottom.....I think you may like the results.....?......
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Doug, very interesting. Marie my wife has two horses...can we take the clippings when it's next shod and add those in? sounds intriguing. Is this what you are suggesting?
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Yes, horse clippings are good, three or four golf ball size chunks cut in half would be good for your size cannister/crucible......for more substantial pieces you could go to a cattle slaughter house if one is nearby or dairy farms that have some dead cows.....?.....The material keeps for a long time obviously......
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I've read that some gunmakers would urinate on the bone and wood charcoal pack in their crucibles before it went into the furnace. Supposedly this enhanced the colors. Have you heard of this or tried it?
A word of warning though... When I worked in a blast furnace years ago, sometimes someone would piss in the coke dust that lined the iron runner. When the molten iron hit it, the resulting odor from the superheated human urine was worse than a herd of skunks.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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In Birmingham many years back there was a place that did the best colour case hardening, outside of the workshop was a large water trough that was also used by the workers to pee in some say this helped the colour!! worth a try I have the old Johnsons formula for colour hardening I will see if I can dig it out Yes Keith, Barrel Browner in the UK mentioned it on page one of this thread.....above is that posting...... Best,
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I have a new toy to CCH....I've added a new post to that effect..
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