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#190578 05/29/10 02:48 PM
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Can anyone here help ID this rifle ? Its a Kentucky style flintlock, with lock plates that are marked London Patent. It It has inlays of fish down its full length of silver or pewter. the rest can be seen in the pics.I have no idea of the year , makers name or rough value.Can anyone school me ? Pau



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I said I do not know the makers name. I meant to say I am not familiar with this maker.

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An educated guess would be Hacker Martin.
Between the antiques and the Bicentennial resurgence, a few craftsmen continued traditional longrifle building, he was one of them.
Don't take this a gospel, do some more research on my guesswork.
And it would be a good idea to find someone to replace the lock bolts and barrel pins.

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SDH, it looks like you hit the nail on the head. Any rough guess on value. Are talking $1000.00 or $5000.00 ballpark?

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Hacker Martin's rifles are quite collectible and there's a fair amount of interest in them. There was a Gun Digest article on him, although I can't remember the year. My dim recollection is that one of his last rifles was made for the actor, Slim Pickens, who is pictured with his rifle in the article. Given the quality of Martin's work and the collector interest, I'd predict that the price will be a lot closer to $5,000 than $1,000.

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Haven't a clue.
You might check the Contemporary Longrifle Ass. site for more info?

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one of the foxfire books had alot of info on mr. martin

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I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as SDH and others, but will offer a few thoughts.

Hacker Martin was one of the very few who made all the parts of the rifle from scratch. Almost all the examples of his work that I've seen (admittedly, not very many) have had iron furniture and hand-made lock plates. The brass and silver/pewter furniture on this rifle are IMO somewhat unusual for a Martin rifle but the workmanship appears to be fully up to the Martin standard. Please be advised that his rifles have assumed a cult status of their own with some traditionalists and so can be fairly expensive, encouraging fakery.

I have all the Foxfire books and will re-read his section later, CRS has a firm grip these days and I often need a rerun to clear out the cobwebs....
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Cobwebs are clearing, Foxfire 5 has a very good overview of flintlock riflemaking with many photos and references to Hacker Martin but few closeups of the details of his work. I had forgotten that he had made some miniatures and that he sometimes used others for some of his work including stockmaking, for instance.

I enthuiastically recommend all the Foxfire books but this #5 is possibly the most interesting for shooters.
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