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Hi! I'm searching for information on a German Drilling. It's in great shape and I'm assuming it to be worth $2000 - to $5000 dollars from what I've seen and learned on the internet so far. I need to know the maker and what the symbols mean. I have a total of 20 pictures I took of the gun, but it doesn't do it justice. It's a beautiful gun, and I have a stake in the bidding on it.

If you want to see larger, clearer pictures of the marks, just let me know and I'll email them too you since I can't seem to add a picture on here.

I'm looking at an SS D marking. A G with a crown over it, some type of design, a U with a crown over it, an SS mark, and what appears to be an N with an M over it.

I have three drillings so send me some pics I might know.
Regards
Martin

A most interesting example as it was proofed in the Zella-Mehlis proofhouse in November 1911 but carries "Eagle" "Nitro" (as well as the "mm" stamp) which was as per the 1912(post 1910 Suhl) rules. The "SS D" is actually "SS" and "D" possibly for Sylv. Schilling and the brothers Denecke(?) who were sourced for parts, would be my guess for now. The other "SS" on the left side of the rifled tube also would be for Sylv. Schilling pretty much noting he made the gun. What's the name atop the rib? I'd guess a value between $900 to $1500.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

This is a guild gun. It is not worth $5000. Perhaps $800 to $1200 depending on condition.

Pete

Thank you very much! Sorry for my ignorance about the price. I was just going off other guns that I saw. At least now I know I can afford to buy it off my uncle. Take Care!

Dana

PS I'm still having problems with inserting pictures. The name on the gun looks like Ciesar Oberstein.

Dana:
Email them to me & I'll post them. Well, I stand corrected as I remembered that Suhl had new proof rules in April of 1912 but I forgot that they adopted the Zella-Mehlis rules of September, 1911. So all is well and it is an example to experience the new proof rules in late 1911. Anyone think there was any need to send a weapon from Suhl to the Zella-Mehlis proofhouse in order to have the latest proof test during the period of September 1911 to April 1912?

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Dana,

You need to figure out what caliber the rifle barrel is chambered for. Raimey may help with that. The issue is condition of the bores. The shotgun tubes are almost sure to be 16ga. I have a similar gun:


So, I have some idea as to values... They are fun guns. Good in grouse cover because of the short barrels. They reflect the needs and style of German hunting.

You can do a chamber cast to help figure the chambering. From there you can have an insert made up in 22 Hornet or perhaps 30-30. You can also get inserts and shoot 20ga shells.

Pete

I'd say Hw.? Caesar of Üherstein?? was a firearms merchant.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Hmmm... that's very interesting (about the name). That is probably a good thing too :::goofy smile::: I wonder why I got brushed off by a sports shop I was suggested too.
My uncle said he'd sell it to me for $500 dollars. But then he was worried I'd go and sell it. Maybe if I assure him I won't do that I can get the gun.