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I think the moral of this story is that people who talk in coy terms, especially when dealing with money related items, deserve to be treated as stupid.

Is it really that difficult to say 'twenty-five thousand' as opposed to 'twenty-five'? My guess is if she is a woman she probably has no aversion to talking anyway.

Am I misunderstanding?...I presumed she had a booth or table, now I'm getting the impression that she walked in with the gun over her shoulder...

Coy terms? If you were at a classic car show and had a for sale sign on an original '69 Camaro SS 396 and someone asked you what you'd take for it and you replied eighteen, would you be speaking in "coy" terms? No, anybody in their right mind would know you didn't mean eighteen hundred. Sure, it's no trouble to say "eighteen thousand", but this type conversation happens everyday between people who are knowledgeable about the item in question. That's the crux of this, he apparently assumed she WASN"T knowledgeable, and attempted to take advantage of it. Either that or, HE'S the one who is stupid, not her.

Sometimes it happens vice versa. I have in my safe an original Manton 16 ga. precussion double that was bought by a friend at a gun show in N. Georgia a few years ago. He walked by a gentleman who had several guns for sale at a table and asked to look at the double. Seeing it was a Manton, and in apparently unfired condition, he asked "How much?". Owner replied "Three". Friend looks it over carefully and replies, "It's certainly a nice one, and worth a great deal, but I'd really like to buy it for less than that". Owner replies, "No, if I can't get at least three hundred dollars for it I'll just take it back home". As you can imagine, both seller AND buyer went home happy.

I dunno Stan...sounds like every deal that uses coy language results in someone getting screwed, or coming close to it.

Sounds to me like Mr. Manton Sellers mighta gone home happy but he got screwed a little.

So, your friend didn't say, Oh no, I want to give you three thousand?

I'm with Stan. The guy was stupid and I would say less than honorable. I wouldn't share the space at a bar with him to have a beer.

Similar story; I walked into the Vegas show a 4-5 yrs back with a small gauge Spanish sidelock slung over my shoulder to sell. I got some looks and questions right away and then a short, overweight, gundealer that I had recognized as one that many of you have dealt with and favorably recommended, approached me, called me "young man", (I'm about 50 at the time, within about 10 yrs of this guy, maybe less), asked if I knew the gun market was about to fall apart and told me that he'd give me about half of what I was asking and that would be good for me and I should be glad to get it. His story of why I should sell this gun for his offer rambled for 5-10 minutes until I couldn't stand it any longer and told him he should sell all his crap for half of what he was asking and be glad. He looked at me like I'd gut-shot him. I walked away shaking my head. The guy wasn't worth the time he took from my life. I'd state the guy's name, but I can't recall it. He was one of the regularly mentioned dealers of doubles. I could probably find his picture in Dave's albums of past Vintagers, but it's not worth the effort. This is the stuff that makes you wanna punch these idiots.

Was it Chadwick? I think he's pretty short but I don't recall him being overweight.

Stan,

You want to double your $300 on the 16ga Manton??

tunes

I agree with some of the others here. If you say you want $13 for it, say $1300 or $13,000 what ever the case is. I am not a mind reader. I have asked about prices and some guys will tell me they want a dime for it. What the heck is that, I don't deal drugs, so I don't know how to deal with drug talk. If some would said to me, that they wanted $13 for a gun, I may very well assume they are telling me $1300. If they want $13,000 be courteous enough to say it and not call me dumb for their dumb pricing method. JMHO

Chuck,

I witnessed a similar scenario at a Tulsa show. My buddy had a extremely nice Remington-Hepburn for sale on our table. A dealer across the isle came over and picked it up a started a diatribe on everything that was wrong with gun from the caliber to the case color. When he completed his assessment he asked the price. My buddy which was now a color of red that is better seen than described, asked him why in the world he would want to buy a piece of $**^ like that, took the gun, replaced it on the table and refused to quote him a price. He sold the gun for asking price later in the morning as the dealer watched from across the isle.