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Re: Lead Shot Ban in Montana PeteM #175545 01/22/10 02:10 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,398 Likes: 16 SDH-MT Sidelock
SDH-MT Sidelock Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,398 Likes: 16	Last edited by SDH-MT; 02/12/10 05:49 PM. Reason: Sillyness

Re: Lead Shot Ban in Montana SDH-MT #176523 01/28/10 07:55 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 384 SW Spain and UK Mike Bailey Sidelock
Mike Bailey Sidelock Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 384 SW Spain and UK	very good amigo best, Mike

Re: Lead Shot Ban in Montana Grouse Guy #176616 01/28/10 06:32 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,065 Amarillo, Texas AmarilloMike Sidelock
AmarilloMike Sidelock Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,065 Amarillo, Texas	Originally Posted By: Grouse Guy Clearly the greatest profits are to be made by people who fight to keep lead cheap, abundant and readily usable across all landscapes, public and private, to enhance the market, demand, and perception of the trade in luxury arms these men profit from. A trade greatly enhanced by maintaining the illusion that the realities of the modern world shall not intrude on the sporting gent. Can you see the pipes puffing? Ben the above argument is silly. You may know your way around the government bureaucracies but you obviously understand nothing about what goes on on this BBS. Best, Mike I am glad to be here.

Re: Lead Shot Ban in Montana AmarilloMike #176617 01/28/10 06:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,964 Likes: 89 Texas Joe Wood Sidelock
Joe Wood Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,964 Likes: 89 Texas	I thank God every day he made me a Texan. Why, the government doesn't own enough land in the Republic to make a decent parking lot for our SUV's. When an old man dies a library burns to the ground. (Old African proverb)

Re: Lead Shot Ban in Montana Joe Wood #178165 02/09/10 02:33 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 9 Montana MT_DD_FAN OP Boxlock
OP MT_DD_FAN Boxlock Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 9 Montana	Latest update: MT FWP commission meets this week. http://www.missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/article_87e84d12-1535-11df-b8b5-001cc4c03286.html Quote: Rob Domenech and his research associates didn't know what they were looking for when they started testing the blood of golden eagles along Montana's Rocky Mountain Front three years ago. What they found was lead, in some cases, lots of it. "This was kind of a shock to us," he said in an interview from his Missoula office. "We never considered it." Domenech, executive director of Raptor View Research Institute, was one of hundreds of people to send comments to the Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks Commission in what has become a controversial trigger-point: a proposal to ban lead shot at state wildlife management areas. The commission meets here Thursday to consider on the idea.

Re: Lead Shot Ban in Montana MT_DD_FAN #178197 02/09/10 06:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 629 Likes: 1 NW Sliver Sidelock
Sliver Sidelock Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 629 Likes: 1 NW	I thought the reason they said they proposed the lead ban on all WMA was to see what the MT hunters will say. It sounded somewhat like if California did it we should follow. Now hunters and the golden eagle are in danger. I don't see any raptors on the endangered or threatened list on MT FWP. I bet we'll have a lead free MT state in the next 5 years. You can call me Ben if not.

Re: Lead Shot Ban in Montana Sliver #178227 02/09/10 08:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,383 Likes: 106 Iowa L. Brown Sidelock
L. Brown Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,383 Likes: 106 Iowa	Question: Do they shoot a whole lot of lead shot in that part of the world? Did they look for lead pellets? My guess would be, if it's ingested lead from carrion the eagles are eating, it might be from bullet fragments in big game. But it could be from other sources as well. No indication that it's from either lead shot or bullet fragments. Our bald eagle numbers in Iowa have increased enormously--right through the period when we were the #1 pheasant state in the nation. Lead shot and/or bullet or slug fragments might be hurting some eagles, but certainly not enough to keep the population from increasing quite steadily--at least not in this part of the world.

Lead Shot Ban in Montana Killed L. Brown #178505 02/12/10 01:58 AM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 9 Montana MT_DD_FAN OP Boxlock
OP MT_DD_FAN Boxlock Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 9 Montana	The MT FWP commission voted today to totally KILL the lead shot ban... http://www.helenair.com/news/state-and-regional/article_a7fbcf8e-1760-11df-bd63-001cc4c03286.html FWP received over 2,600 comments via the survey monkey web site and more than 325 comments via letters and email on their proposed hunting regulations for 2010-11. If you're interested, you can read that information plus much more via this link: http://fwp.mt.gov/news/publicnotices/notice.html?action=getPublicNotice&id=2285 You might also be interested to know that BEFORE today's meeting FWP staff modified their original proposal from a total ban lead shot on all WMAs to only add the Freezeout Lake and Canyon Ferry WMAs to the restricted list along with existing Pb shot bans at NinePipe and Pablo. And FWP staff did it because of the public comment they received. The following quote comes directly from the FWP COMMISSION AGENDA ITEM (for UGB & Turkey) COVER SHEET prepared for today's commission meeting: Quote: For the 2010 and 2011 upland game bird structures, the more significant proposed changes include a requirement that non-toxic shot be used for all game bird hunting on Wildlife Management Areas (WMA). Spring turkey seasons in Regions 1 and 2 are proposed to be liberalized. Refinements to December adoptions based upon public comment include further expansion of turkey hunting in Region 1 and expanding the requirement for non-toxic shot for upland bird hunting to only Canyon Ferry and Freezout Lake WMAs (Ninepipe and Pablo WMAs already have that requirement). The MT FWP commission, at least a majority, listened to their constituents.

Re: Lead Shot Ban in Montana Killed MT_DD_FAN #178519 02/12/10 09:08 AM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,995 Likes: 402 Colorado SKB Sidelock
SKB Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,995 Likes: 402 Colorado	Very Good news! http://www.bertramandco.com/ Booking African hunts, firearms import services Here for the meltdowns

Re: Lead Shot Ban in Montana Killed SKB #178524 02/12/10 09:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,383 Likes: 106 Iowa L. Brown Sidelock
L. Brown Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,383 Likes: 106 Iowa	Common sense prevails. Good job, you Montanans!

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