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Geno.
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Beutiful gun, and nice Damascus pattern. That J.J.DuPont stamp is certainly interesting.
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WOW Geno. I believe that is SIX IRON (acid etched) Crolle' and by far the earliest I've seen. Would the gun date to c. 1860-1870? Six Iron 'Turkish' did not appear on US guns until the Parker hammerless A grades.
DuPont was a common Walloon name, but I have no listing for a 'JJ' barrel maker- maybe Jean-Baptiste Delcour-Dupont's grand daddy?
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Wow.
Fantastic.
Looks like something we'd see out of Prague.
I really like the styles on this gun.
That dog is great!!
Cheers
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Beautiful piece of work Geno. If this is now yours congradulations!
Jim
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Crown over controller mark been in use till 1877. J.J.Dupont known as barrel maker here. I count 3 iron  Unfortunatly it's not mine (
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It's a tough 'read' Geno, and one does not want to use a single ribband segment to interpret the pattern, BUT I see between the ribband weld lines a 1/2 scroll (where the edges were 'jumped' or overlapped to weld), then 5 full scrolls, then a 1/2 scroll- but I could just be overreacting  
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Geno,
I love the Russian guns you post. Always a learning experience for me.
I have seen that ridge work on other barrels. It was apparently rather common early on for high grade guns. I have no definite evidence of how it was done, though I could suggest several ways of doing it. Interesting that they choose to etch the barrels.
I think I found the barrel maker;
A Marneffe & JJ Dupont, Liege 1856-1863. Submitted 1524 barrels for proof in 1856. Granted a patent in 1861
JJ Dupont Liege successor to Marneffe & Dupont 1865-1870
Also found:
J Dupont & Fils 1886
J Dupont & Fils ILLIC 1888
Jean Dupont 1 Rue Haute Prealle, Herstal 1881-1885
Joseph Dupont 46 Rue de Robermont Leige 1892
I can not find any of them with a registered trade mark. Probably why he used his name on the barrels. The single name dates the gun to 1865-1870 IF the info I have is correct.
Both Jean and Joseph have several patents between them. Mainly regarding locking mechanism.
Would that engraving of the hunter with dog be a typical Russian image of that era?
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Geno,
Thank you for a very special post.
(Especially for us muzzle loaders.)
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Very nice Geno, thanks for sharing.
MP Sadly Deceased as of 2/17/2014
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