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Neat gun. Check it out:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=152039970

What's up with the firing pins as shown in pic #5?

Why are there 2 sets of holes? And why are the pins so far to the edge?

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Loaded chamber indicators.

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Dang - I think you're right. Those are the outside pins, right?

So where are the indicators on the outside of the gun?

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Somewhere on the fence balls?


They don't really show the top of those fences do they -- wonder what's there to hide.

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They are hidden behind the "breech balls"..when a chamber is loaded, they protrude from the back as little "bumps", if there is engraving in this area...they are nearly impossible to notice unless there is a shell in the chamber and you are shown where the "bumps" are at. Very sneaky ;-)
If you look at the second picture down....the indicator would be located right behind the "oak leaf" where the breech ball meets the front of the action.

This is a very nice Ideal and I would gladly pay the asking price....if it didnt have the lunnette style trigger guard :-(
Its a wonderful gun and would make an extremely nice addition to any collection. 5 palms barrel steel as well, its a fantastic gun.

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Are the stocks on more of them reinforced like this one?

Those triggers look like they would take some getting used to.

What does the other style trigger guard look like?

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The higher grade Ideals had those metal bands on the stocks, I guess more space for the engraver to ply his trade or to show off the craftsmanship of fitting that piece to the gun (aka more time, more money). The "other trigger guards" would be found on later Ideals, usually on ones made in the 20th century. and they would be what we would call a standard style guard found on virtually all other guns we own with some sculpting/shaping differences.

Another nice thing about this gun is that the sling+mechanism seems to be all there, another nice touch. Someone please buy this gun....like quick. :-)

Get a Ideal in your hands and be prepared to be amazed. There are so many cool things about these guns...you can decock them, you can cock them by pulling the lever up when the gun is closed, you can take the barrels off without ever taking the forend off, the fitting of the rising bite is out of this world, the internals are very cool too. Its one of the most interesting, practical, and innovative game guns ever devised, my opinion of course.

Dustin

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Found this pic of the other kind of triggerguard:

http://stephenbodio.blogspot.com/2006/08/gunblogging-french-design-2.html

They sound like neat guns. I'll keep my eye out for a 16 with a regular triggerguard.

I love the sling, too. Great idea.

Have a good New Year,

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Here's one I used to own....





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From collectible point of view 2-eyes trigger guard is superior to ordinary trigger guard. Actually 2-eyes TG is like trademark of Ideal.


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