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Ted thanks for your input.And to partially answer your question due to the limited information I have received. I understand some of these same actions was used for double rifles.??? And I do not believe all double shot guns are suitable for conversion.That is one of the reasons I am asking for information.Rather than just doing it.Plus the fact if it had the history is important enough not to. I would not. BUT if you or anyone else has a problem with me converting this gun due to ???. And have one that they feel would be a better one to convert.And as I am planning on light cal.The smaller the gage the better. Talk to me maybe we will trade. my email is whanson@plainstel.com. Whitey

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Whitey,

Get a copy of this book before you begin:
BUILDING DOUBLE RIFLES ON SHOTGUN ACTIONS.
by Brown, W. Ellis.
Publisher Information:
Bunduki Publishing Ft. Collins, CO 2001

You may also be interested in this conversion story:
http://www.hotkey.net.au/~orrs/GreenerStory.htm

As some one who just went through this. I will give you some advice. Figure out all the costs in advance. Consider that most conversions have no provision for adjusting the poi. So you will be spending some time, perhaps alot, at the bench. Take a look at some of the guns that are currently on the market, eg, Pedersoli, FinnClassic, Chapuis to name a few. If your conversion comes anywhere near the cost of a new double rifle, then forget the conversion.

Pete

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Thanks Pete I do understand what you are saying. I do have the book. And please understand I have mills (several including cnc) I have 3 lathes I have a surface grinder,And a sharper etc,etc,And that I love guns (mainely rifles) and at 73 years old. I want something to kill time. Smile and keep my mind thinking.Before it gets completely senile.And I just might build a 22LR double gun. If for no other reason. Everything else I see are to hunt elephants etc, and after 22 years in the military I have seen all the blood I ever want to see.So it is nothing to do with hunting. But just for fun and to see if I can do it.At this point the only thing I was concerned with was using something That could be important to someone. Thanks again. Whitey

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Whitey, someone else may be able to confirm that there were double rifles made on the Robust action. Entirely possible I suppose, although I'd guess they'd likely be the less potent European calibers rather than something for large and dangerous game somewhere like Africa. (Sounds like that would work OK for you.) And what you may also have heard is that some Robusts have one rifled barrel. That part is certainly true, but in most (all?) cases, the rifling is not for a rifle bullet or slug, but rather to disperse the shot charge--a pattern wider than cylinder, favored by many European woodcock hunters.

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Not Robust, but Manufrance Ideal...



I can't see the text here to tell if the barrels are rifled or not.


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L.Brown Thanks for the information. Yes I am sure they would not build these into big game rifles.My concern when I decided to do this project. Was to find a action that was not already messed up and had some workmanship in it. And this gun has that.If someone had not shot steel shot in it and messed up the bores some. It would be a excellent shotgun. Then when I could not find much information on it. I figured I would try and find out if I was going to use something. That would be more appreciated bu a restorer or.???. Whitey

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Pete,
I can't see the text either but feel that Fusil Colonial "Plomb & Balle" might have employed some kind of Paradox rifling.
With kind regards,
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Whitey,
you've received lots of info on the Robust guns. I believe that you are actually concerned over the historical/monetary value. To answer your question bluntly, do what you want, make it into whatever you wish. The gun would bring much less than $1K in the States. I hope that I have not offended you.

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Hello Whitey,
Does one of the barrels have rifling?
Send pictures please, if you know how.
If not, let us know and we will post them for you
Thanks
Mike


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Mike there is some pictures posted earlier by Peter M that is my gun.Not cleaned up or polished etc. I do have a couple others. If you want them email me at. whanson@plainstel.com and will be glad to send them. Whitey

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