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Larry,
Accepting that the right rifled barrel was designed for pellet dispersion; in your opinion, what would keep this Robust from not firing slugs?
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EJ and Larry, in this case the rifling is not the shallow type used for dispersion but
very defined and with the grooves having straight sides. I would say it is there for
slugs.
JC
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I'm sure you could fire slugs even through the "dispersion" barrels, although that's not the purpose for which they were designed.
JayCee, you could be right. I'd have to see one with a "dispersion" barrel side by side to compare. I owned a Fabarm with one of those, but I don't remember the rifling well enough to make a firm conclusion.
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I never saw such rifling for spreading pellets. Guess its for slugs, light ones.
Nice Robust, JC.
Geno.
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JayCee,
Nice gun. Have you been able to date this one?
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A basic thought reference your Robust. Most German and Belguim gun that are not designed for slugs will so indicate on the barrels. Does your gun have " nicht fur kugel" anywhere on the barrels? If it does it clears means not for slugs. I would also want to see how the "dispersion" barrel is choked. If it is really tight ....aproximating full choke....I would not shoot slugs through that barrel.
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Hello Tom,
As you point out when not for slugs, French guns, such as this one, will be marked
"Non Pour la Balle". This one is marked "Raye" or rifled.
Also to bear in mind, normally guns with dispersion rifling are used for becasse and
are very light guns such as the Baby Bretons, for a lot of walking and very little
shooting. Not in this case. JMTC.
JC
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The French expression "canon raye" [rifled barrel] IS associated with shot dispersion rather than slug stabilization.
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Hello Lapin,
Generally I would think the same, but the rifling on this one is rather deep and the
groves have sharp edges.
I used to have a VS two barrel set and one of the barrels was a lot shorter, the right
had very shallow rifling (no edges to it whatsoever) and the left was bored cylinder.
I am basing my assumption on that knowledge, so it may be biased.
JC
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Your right JC, deep groves with sharp edges are not for bird shot. After first round all grooves will be full of lead. Bird shot rifling is shallow and usually pretty frequent.
Raye is the only mark I know to indicate rifling on French guns.
Geno.
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