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A cased Norwich Tobin similar to the subject gun sold recently in Ontario for $2000 approx. By comparison a mint 12G, model 70, Trap, Woodstock, Tobin, from my collection sold for $800. Lower grades sell at Ontario gun shows for between $300-600 depending on condition.Mint examples are hard to find.


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Ted,
I understand the principles of supply/demand. Just wondered what you thought the gun's realistic market value was.
Thanks for pointing out the brick-like quality of the bottom of the action.
I hadn't noticed that when I made the graceful claim.
Still, I think the shaping of the breech balls and the way the lines on the top of the action flow back and down from the
breech towards the top of the stock and sideplates are graceful. Not unlike the early Sauer Knock-abouts.
BTW, I happen to like that 16 of yours. I've seen the pics.
-Jim

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I noted from the pictures that the engraving is very similar to some of the engraving on American guns especially on the Meriden and/or A. J. Aubrey sidelocks maybe from the same hand???
Their locks are nicely engraved and finished, so if you had the chance to buy a nicely engraved Tobin or Meriden which would you consider and which would you buy? Not just for looks or collecting purposes but to use in the field.

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There exist far better designs for actual use in the field then either a Tobin or Meriden (Klunk, MGRHS, was a Meriden fan, but, more for looks I think, then use) since stock dimensions, and metallurgy, came a long ways in just the few decades after Frank hung it up.
My own thoughts as to Tobins are, that the frames have too much material hogged out of them to leave them strong enough to use with modern ammunition. The Tobin design is neither sidelock nor boxlock, but a strange morphing of the two. The only thing carried on the sidelocks are the sears and their springs, the rest of the stuff, including the roller equipped mainsprings, that double as cocking rods, are inside the frame. I use mine, but, pretty much only in bluebird conditions with ammunition that is about the same pressure as the time period of the guns.
Roy pretty much nailed the pricing, again, in my opinion-dude can ask whatever he wants for his Tobin gun, it is beautiful, but, not worth that kind of money to me.
I'm guessing it will be for sale for a long time.
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Ted

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I've got a lower grade Tobin 12. Its nice and tight and has not been shot much, but has a crude stock repair. If anyone wants a project gun for $200 let me know at halka@hughes.net and I will take pics.

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