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If I'm reading the above correctly - The Reproductions and the originals were case colored in the same fashion. The only difference being the lack of "coating" on the Reproductions.OR the originals might have been Bone Charcoal case colored, Glad that was cleared up.
Does anyone actually have a definitive source for either position?
I've seen plenty of "old" Parkers with essentially no case coloring left on the exterior. Does that indicate that the cyanide or just usage?
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Original Prker case-coloring was bone-charcoal, not cyanide. The Reproductions colors look absolutely nothing like original Parker's. However, a Reproduction's receiver really "coins" to a very pleasing patina as it wears. JR
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I used a new 28g repro for one season in Texas for Quail. I lost about 75% of the case color. I liked the gun better after the season because it looked broke-in and more classic. Only down side of lost case color is resale price. These guns will function like new for generations and with careful use will look great as well. Bob Jurewicz
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I knew my comment would get correct and incorrect replies and cause some debate. I'm sure Mr. Skeuse was referring to late Parkers when he stated that his Repro was colored with the same method as the "originals". Parkers of the Remington era were cyanide colored. I'm sure Mr. Skeuse used the latest Parkers in building prototypes for his project. Del Grego Parkers were also cyanide colored since many were done in the Remington factory.
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One could also make an argument that a Repro is as much a Parker as a Remington-built Parker. Hadn't there been legality issues with name licensing, Parker Reproductions would have simply been named Parkers--but that's not what we're discussing and belongs in a different thread.
The common perception is that all Del Grego restorations have cyanide colors, that isn't quite true. Babe Del Grego told me in a phone conversation that it has been more than 10 years since he last used the cyanide process and since then has been farming out case-coloring to Turnbull and his bone charcoal system.
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i doubt the engraving was rolled on the flat parts or anywhere else.that would take a lot of pressure and crush the action.i know some were hand engraved.etching and hand cutting being more likely.mc
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i doubt the engraving was rolled on the flat parts or anywhere else.that would take a lot of pressure and crush the action.i know some were hand engraved.etching and hand cutting being more likely.mc Nope, rolled on. Pretty common. I had a Garbi model 100 that had rolled engraving (hand chased) on the sidelocks.
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did you see how it was rolled on ? i would like to see that!.if it was hand chased how do you know it was rolled on?was a pattern rolled on then cut? how deep is the rolled engraving? mc
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mc, Try Google-ing "rolled engraving" to get an understanding of how it's done. Here's just one of sites that'll come up, look at the pics of the rollers on the home page and it should be pretty much self-explanatory: http://www.easternengraving.com/
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