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Jani:

Thanks and they very well may have. Yugoslavia left the Austro-Hungarian proof party post WWI and went their own way. Odd though that there doesn't appear to be the intertwined "EL"(Epreuve de Liege) or the Perron, or have I missed them?

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

From Dr. Drew Hause's site, http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/17575181 , as a full screen, 2nd full row of barrel flats, 1st pic entitled "Post 1924 Dumoulin Lambert" has a very similar date code stamp with the same spangled "x" controller's mark. Drew gives 1928 and it could be "y" and 1946. Quite a puzzle I must say.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

I'm not a proof-mark expert, so I can be very wrong here. But I don't thik I ever saw the cyrillic У for BP proof on actual Russian-made guns. It really looks more like a g to me.

I agree with you "Quite a puzzle" ,beacause of that i need help from all of you guys.That picture of Dumoulin Lambert has the same spangled x controller's mark as mine. I think it's a litle g because my dad said that the gun is pree WWII in my family.


Thanks Raimey.

Humpty: you could be correct and I would like to know much more about post WWI Hungarian, Romanian, Russia and Yugo proof marks.

Mario:

To tell the truth I don't know what it is and some of the Belgian experts will have to chime in. I prefer numbers to characters. It may be pre-WWII or made at the end or just after WWII and that's the reason for the proofmark puzzle. I not sure exactly when the proof houses were in full swing post WWII. If you find any more info please post.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Thanks for trying. I find one site
[url=http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun_inventory/inventory/buda/european_sg/1019987_dum20_bud.jsp?hierarchyId=11653]

Please copy and paste this site to adress and have a look.
This gun on site have similar gravurs as mine.??

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/conten..._requestid=5648


The fences may be similar but I think that to be something more akin to Bohemian makers, who indeed did source Belgium. You'll probably have to look inside the boxlock or on the sideplate to find the mark or initials of the maker. The inverted "Horseshoe" above the gauge/chamber stamp in interesting and when I have a bit of time I'm going to see if I can locate any info on it.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

I don,t undesrstand some fraze of your answer, Who are Bohemian makers? On the out side of the sideplate there is no mark, Can you tell me how can I look inside the boxlock. If you have some pictures or graphics that would help.

Thanks Raimey.

Mario.

As far as as Bohemian lets say the makers from Weipert or the Czech Republic. The mark would be on the inside of the sideplate. Looking on the inside would of course require disassembly and sometime if you have someone to clean or service it, you could look then. But let me look for some instructions.

Here is some info on Russian marks and I'll keep working on the translation: http://www.gunproofmarks.ru/russia-control.html , (select "Russia", then "monitoring, compliance") http://translate.google.com/translate?hl...l%3Den%26sa%3DN . Tap on "Gunsmiths" and there are some halmarks of the craftsmen. But I have read sources and I think one to be Wirnsberger that gave "Y" as noting black powder proof.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

On internet I try to find some pics of Czech gun, there are so litle pics. It could be that my gun is from Czech Republic? I don't no. Probably I must find some good craftsmen and disassembly it to a parts.
The Y sign is probably from Russian proofmarks( or slavic states)

Thanks Raimey.