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Wouldnt it be nice to at least get these old girls busting a cap now and again??
I dont know much ado,but has any??

yobyllib,

I'm not sure I understand the question, but think you're asking if anyone has used a ten for sporting clays. If so, I have a 32" L.C.Smith ten that I have loaded 2 7/8", 1 1/8 oz. loads of no. 8's for. It is so barrel heavy that it is very hard to enjoy at sporting. I tested myself with it once on some very close and fast crossers, just to see if I could get the heavy barrels moving quickly enough to get in front of the bird. By using the "modified ambush" method Miller and I described recently in another thread I was able to do so reliably, even with the tight chokes. But, it is not much fun to me.

I think a lighter, more open choked English ten would be infinitely more fun than the old Elsie. I am very competitive, and when I do shoot sporting I want to break every possible bird. So, I use a MX-8, or if practicing for a S x S event, my 30" BSS.

Stan

I regularly use both my Golcher (Lindner) hammer gun and Lefever E Grade for clays. I use 12 bore chamber mates and AA hulls (smooth works better than ribbed) and feel as well gunned as anyone else in our group. The big tens mean virtually no recoil and really nice follow through. Several friends use their big guns as well.

Hello
I use a Syracuse L. C. Smith 10 gauge hammerless grade 2 for duck hunting. I load Alcan all brass hulls, black powder, MEC 10 gauge wad shortened to length, #3 steel shot and an over shot wad held on with Elmer's school glue.
HINT: Shoot the down wind bird first !!

For doves, I use an Ithaca NID in 2 7/8 chambers with #8 shot and a 6 star crimp with 1 1/8 ounce of shot.

I also shoot it at the skeet range. Quite a swinger.

Enjoy
Mike

Mike:

Where did you get the data for the fold crimp 2-7/8 inch shell? I'd like to reload some of the RST hulls I have for my Darne and my Hollis and that is exactly the load I'm looking for.

Thanks.

Rem

Ok, i read some where years ago that the Curtis that worked for L.C.Smith had a high grade Smith made for the 10 guage and that it was made for upland shooting. Barrels were 28 inches and gun weighed 8 something as I recall,this was 20 odd years ago so I am not sure of the details. Has this gun surfaced? I think I read about it in Forest& Stream( I used to own a complete set)or in a book by the same Curtis,A. P. Curtis I believe.

RHD45,

That sounds interesting that A.P. Curtis ordered a light weight Ten. Capt. Paul A. Curtis, had Ithaca build him an 8 1/4 pound, 28-inch barrel, Grade 4E, NID Super-Ten, with a straight grip and single selective trigger. He wrote about it in his colume in the February 1931 Field & Stream. He stated Lou Smith didn't think he'd like it and included a set of 32-inch barrels. Walter Snyder reported from the old Ithaca ledgers that serial number 455758 was shipped on an invoice dated 7/11/30 to a Madison Ave, NYC, address c/o Field & Stream, listing a 10/32 with SST, pad and sights, no mention of the 28-inch barrels.

My roving eye just happened to spot his classified ad in the October 1934, American Rifleman, offering the gun for sale for $75.

Good post!! Here's a couple sporting tens. Have a set of gold chambermates 10/12ga. that keep these guns shooting all year. Randy


Francotte, circa 1890's, 10 bore, 8#, Absolute gorgeous gun, original head to toe. Still snow in the hardwoods, 3rd week April.


Francotte

"Incomming" George Bate, 10 bore, 9# 4oz.



Daughter Kate, spring turkey, beautiful girl and same goes for the Iver Johnson single 16. Kate's legally blind but is one determined hunter. Overshot a nice tom on last day. After that miss, I bought her a Beretta folding single as it has a flat side to the breech frame to mount a sidemount with a red dot. She has 2 bucks and a black bear to her credit so she was really bummed the turkey didn't go down. Thanks for letting a proud dad ramble on

At last weeks Clays shoot, at Piney Valley, near Vail Colorado, we had a couple of guys shooting 10's. High gun was was shooting a Brit hammer gun with chambermates, broke 76 on a very challenging course. I shoot a Lefever "E" 10 a lot for Pheasants with RST's and Doves with lil skeeters. I think they are fun to shoot, but a bit slow to swing. On Pheasants, my shooting improves as I tend to shoot too quickly most of the time. The "E" slows me down......

That is a real nice Iver Johnson. Is the checkering factory? Just missed a Francotte ten on the internet. It was sold when I called on it. I shoot tens in Sauer, Parker, Golcher/Linder, Lefever, L.C.Smith, AYA, Harrington and Richardson, maybe others. I ordered an Ithaca Classic Doubles bird gun, but the company went under before the tens went into production. There is a prototype out there somewhere, but I don't know who owns it. Maybe Steve Lamboy still has it.