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Thanks Steve. I killed it for the time being.

Pete

thanks Pete and SKB. In the past I have had jug choke invoked when I complained to a dealer that the bores of a gun were way out of proof.

In Diggory's book he mentions guns with 20 gauge bores and 12 gauge chambers. Could this be something similar?

I haven't measured a Lindner gun with barrels made with the "vena contracta" concept (often confused with the 12-20) most of us are familiar with. The vena contracta, as I recall, is a tapered bore system. A bore that goes from a ten gauge chamber to a .730 something bore is something I have not seen.

John Mann has been urging my to register with this group for some
time and now that my gun has been commented on I though I would
reply
1. I can see no evidence of the of the chambers altered, if they have been it was early in the guns life, to open the chambers
to next gauge is not easily done.
2. the action face has pitting around the strikers of 10 gauge
cartridges showing that it has been heavily used as such
3. The scales used to weigh the gun have a resolution of 0.2 oz
the gun weighs 9lbs 11.2ozs brls weigh 5lbs 6.6ozs
4. I gave the od of the brls over the jug choke section as my
wall thickness gauge was giving variable results because of the
jug choking
5.the gun number is 1161
6.The stock was very poorly repaired when I acquired the gun
(repaired with a piece of bent 3/8 steel key stock and glued with some unknown grey glue that had not set, and the edges of the break had been heavily peened was a hammer) I cleaned up the
break and re inlet the two sides of the break together and then
glued it back together while held in a stock vise, then machined
the stock through the break to insert a glue wood spline
re inlet the action and trigger plate and refinished and chquered as needed
7.The action flats are marked with the makers name (Thos L Golcher) and number also with the following mark H.KLT inside
a oval the first and last are over stamped over some other letters the size of the oval is .250" long x .163high the letters and the oval a peer to be a one piece stamp applied when the gun was made, any ideas what it means? .
8. John Mann has seen the gun and says it was made by Linder possibly a 165 grade there are no Linder markers on the brls

Hope this information helps I was to busy to post earlier
SGH

Have Thomas Golcher 10ga 12ga two bbl set #1120-no proofs
assume Linder Hammer
Had Clark & Sneider #482 10 Ga chamber cylinder .729 bore
with no choke @ 9-9 1/2 lb 32 in. Hammer
Have E THomas Jr Hammerless 16 ga chamber,18 ga cylinder bore
Reguards
Bill

I concur that the listed gun is a ten gauge with 12 gauge bores. I would love to throw a few patterns with that great gun.

What is the advantage of 12ga bores for a 10ga? Simply to make it throw tighter patterns?

Pete

Pete, I think the advantage was mostly the "better mousetrap" theory. Like 25 " Churchill barrels, or Lefever tapered bores, or Hellis featherweight guns. It was all having to do with "how do I sell a gun " when others are offering similar products.

As we have found over the years, Daryl is right on. I will never say never as long as my friend Doctor McPhail can provide an example of a strange phenomenon in gunmaking. If Clark and Sneider built a ten gauge with 12 gauge bores, Tom Golcher probably put a few together to compete. After all, they were after the same market along the Delaware River and down to the Maryland Shore. We Maryland boys were (and are) dumb as stones and would buy anything that would shoot big bullets and is hard to carry.