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Re: Are these really W. & C. Scott Premiers.... treblig1958 #145865 04/29/09 02:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee HomelessjOe Sidelock
HomelessjOe Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee	If your looking for a short barreled Grant with not allot of choke then I guess it would be a good deal...It's still not as rare as a Scott Imperial Premier.

Re: Are these really W. & C. Scott Premiers.... Utah Shotgunner #145869 04/29/09 03:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee HomelessjOe Sidelock
HomelessjOe Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee	Originally Posted By: Utah Shotgunner Justify this statement or shut up. You have no idea what I paid for this gun, nor what the renovations are costing. True...but I have a good idea how much it's going to cost you to get it not even close to the one at Cabelas. Yes, you considered purchasing a Scott of mine that was being sold on consignment. It didn't meet your standards. Move on. I did...I like how you told me the action was really tight because it hadn't been used much...I got news for you I don't think a W&C Scott ever left the factory in the 1800's that was so tight that it didn't close properly. yOu ready to move on now ? ps...did you ever refund my shipping costs back ?

Re: Are these really W. & C. Scott Premiers.... HomelessjOe #145871 04/29/09 03:28 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,021 Pennsylvania treblig1958 Sidelock
treblig1958 Sidelock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,021 Pennsylvania	Joe, the most ironic thing is W & C Scott probably built that gun for Steven Grant!!!

Re: Are these really W. & C. Scott Premiers.... treblig1958 #145900 04/29/09 06:44 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 610 Fl justin Sidelock
justin Sidelock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 610 Fl	Swamprat, If you want peoples' help,you should learn to tolerate their foibles. Justin

Re: Are these really W. & C. Scott Premiers.... HomelessjOe #145912 04/29/09 08:02 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,595 Likes: 10 Central Pennsylvania Utah Shotgunner Sidelock
Utah Shotgunner Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,595 Likes: 10 Central Pennsylvania	Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe ps...did you ever refund my shipping costs back ? Is this what you have been so pissy about for the last couple of years? I have no idea if 'I' ever refunded your shipping costs back. 'I' didn't ship it to you. You were dealing with the consignment shop. Mike

Re: Are these really W. & C. Scott Premiers.... Utah Shotgunner #145913 04/29/09 08:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,595 Likes: 10 Central Pennsylvania Utah Shotgunner Sidelock
Utah Shotgunner Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,595 Likes: 10 Central Pennsylvania	A Grant completed in 1960? Who completed it? Grant was not in business as a maker at the point were they? Mike

Re: Are these really W. & C. Scott Premiers.... Utah Shotgunner #145958 04/30/09 08:58 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,021 Pennsylvania treblig1958 Sidelock
treblig1958 Sidelock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,021 Pennsylvania	Mike, I think more and more now that a greater percentage, and that percentage seems to be growing, of the 'Premier' London makers pleaded with W. & C. Scott or W. & C. Scott & Sons asking them to build them a gun they can be proud to engrave their name on!!!!

Re: Are these really W. & C. Scott Premiers.... treblig1958 #145961 04/30/09 09:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,832 Likes: 13 USA obsessed-with-doubles OP Sidelock
OP obsessed-with-doubles Sidelock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,832 Likes: 13 USA	That Grant is practically new and it's a top-quality London gun. Scott had nothing to do with it, either. Grant's guns are a lot different. 28" is a standard length for bbls on a game gun. They are not "short." Flip through a Holt's catalog sometime and you lots of guns with 28" bbls. Grant was building guns in the '60s. I think had been consolidated into Atkin Grant & Lang (or at least some versions of it) at that point. You can read more about it here: http://www.atkingrantandlang.co.uk/history.html OWD Good Gun Alerts & more: www.DogsandDoubles.com

Re: Are these really W. & C. Scott Premiers.... obsessed-with-doubles #145962 04/30/09 09:31 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee HomelessjOe Sidelock
HomelessjOe Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee	Why don't you buy it ?

Re: Are these really W. & C. Scott Premiers.... HomelessjOe #146031 04/30/09 08:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,595 Likes: 10 Central Pennsylvania Utah Shotgunner Sidelock
Utah Shotgunner Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,595 Likes: 10 Central Pennsylvania	Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe I did...I like how you told me the action was really tight because it hadn't been used much...I got news for you I don't think a W&C Scott ever left the factory in the 1800's that was so tight that it didn't close properly. [/quote] This needs to be addressed. It is YOUR opinion that it didn't close properly. A Holland & Holland papered gunmaker vetted that gun for me. His opinion was different than yours. I suspect that he knows just a little bit more than you or I about such things. You also conveniently leave out the other indicators of the guns lack of use. Percentage of case color, originality of barrel browning, stock finish, etc. It didn't meet your standards. Fine. You sent it back, no questions asked. Then you accuse me on a public forum of failing to return shipping charges when you knew you were dealing with a consigner. Your continued sniping over this issue demonstrates much about your personality. My apologies to the original poster that this took place in your thread. Mike

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