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I wonder who made this DR for W.R.in Bermingham?
Also it looks like 425 W.R. caliber, but cases on photo are only 56 mm in length, when it must be 67 mm. Maybe wrong selfmade short cases?
What d'you think about price of this piece, your wild guess?







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Sorry for too big images.
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Fixed it.

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I wonder if it could be for the old 450/400 2 3/8th. inch Nitro Express. The Cordite load would be about right. Bullet weights went from 270 to 400 grain. Why the metric marks; unless for the Continental market. Isaac Hollis made a few of westley's guns. Lagopus.....

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I've only seen the .425 with the 410 gr bullet weight. It's marked as 346 max. I don't think it's a .425.

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10,75 mm is exactly 425.

S/n T6200 doesn't match to W.R. s/n's, that's why I asked who made this DR.

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Geno the WR .425 bullet diameter is .435. Confusing is'nt it?

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10,75 mm is diameter of plug, i.e. allmost barrel diameter of bore, not lands. Where do you see ammo id on flats? It will look like this 11 mm x 67 R.
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I've seen a Kynoch cartridge with a headstamp of 10.75mm with 347 grain bullet but I don't know if the case is the same. Google "Kynoch 10.75mm" should give some results. Would it by 10.75mm Mauser?

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It obviously isn't a .425 WR. Both the proof marks and the straight wall cartridges that I assume purport to fit it indicate a different cartridge. British rifles proved for .425 WR are marked 425EX, not 10.75mmEX, and are Cordite 65, 410 MAX. The .425 is a bottleneck cartridge.

British proof marks from this period for British cartridges weren't in metric. This rifle was built for a European cartridge, not British. The 10.75 rimless comes to mind (347 grain bullet), but the powder charge is wrong and the rifle appears to be chambered for a flanged case, although we don't have a photo from that angle, if the cartridge shown is correct. The 10.75 rimless is also a bottleneck cartridge. Only a chamber cast will suffice.

The T prefix doesn't automatically mean that the gun was made for Westley by someone else. This gun is from 1913/14. The barrels were struck up and signed by Lilley, Westley's best in those days.


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S/n T6200 doesn't match to W.R. s/n's, that's why I asked who made this DR.
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Oops. I didn't see this one Geno. Yes it is a Westley serial number. 1913-1914.


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