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james do you notice the difference between the pin arrangements on Sven's gun and the one I posted?
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Mike,
On the Stevens 315-style guns the rear pin is higher than the front pin; on the 311-style it's lower. They have different hammers and springs, but I can't remember which is which. I believe the 315 series is older but I'm not sure.
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Mike,as F2F said there were lots of models made by Stevens, one of them didn't have normal hammers and sears, it used a striker mechanism similar to one of their hammerless single shot shotguns. I have seen different models of Stevens shotguns with the Wards Hercules marking on them. Some of the older Stevens guns were well made for the money. A study of all the double guns made by Stevens-Savage would be interesting.
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Fin2Feather has it right. April 20, 1915 is the patent used for the model 315 Stevens. US patent #1,136,247 issued to G S Lewis, Springfield Mass. The reason for the different pin placement is the 315 is striker fired & the 311 type has internal hammers. The higher rear pin placement on the 315 is for the sear arrangement to release the spring loaded strikers. I once had a 20ga built on this action marked "Central Arms Co". I mentioned it here one time, but didn't recall about the different pin placement or the patent date, only that it was striker fired. The rest is Compliments of "Russ", long may his memory live.
I expect the confusion comes from the fact that Iver Johnson built a "Hercules" model under their own name & quite possibly with other trade names as well. The guns pictured here though are Stevens.
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The Iver Johnson "Champion" model was relabelled "Western Field" for Monkey Wards. Your "Hercules" is a remarked Stevens rather than the IJ Hercules.
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