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Another example - from our own Classified Ads

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Note that this is a James Woodward, not a Thomas Woodward.

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Dustin, the example that you displayed certainly proves my generalization wrong!The various features certainly put this outside the Run of the mill category.I'm guessing this gun was made 1880-ish. How is it to shoot?


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Originally Posted By: Hugh Lomas
Dustin, the example that you displayed certainly proves my generalization wrong!The various features certainly put this outside the Run of the mill category.I'm guessing this gun was made 1880-ish. How is it to shoot?


Hugh,

It is 1880's ish. I too thought some of the features on the gun were not exactly run of the mill for Brit doubles the era. In my opinion, its a pretty unique and very cool gun. I have not shot it yet, but I can only imagine that it is a pussy cat. It weighs just at 8 1/4 pounds, with light 1 1/4 oz. or 1 1/8 oz. loads I imagine recoil will be almost non-existent.

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The T&T Woodward patent of 1876 was known for a time as the 'Acme' and was retailled by a number of makers other than T. Woodward. I have seen them by Adams and others.

They are generally not finished as 'best' guns, rather as third or fourth quality guns and they generally do not make very high prices in the UK. You occasionally see a better quality example but I think it was conceived as a lower-priced gun as it is quite easy to manfacture and assemble the parts.

A decent example for £200 plus commission at Holts a couple of years ago comes to mind. I sold one by T. Woodward built on his modified coil-spring patent of 1884 for £400 last year. This may well have been a prototype. There are photos of it dismantled in my book.

The original patent is quite confusing as father and son were both called Thomas Woodward.

However, it is believed the son moved to London to manage the H&H factory. You can see a photo of him on the factory floor in the H&H book by 'the Donald'.

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Originally Posted By: Small Bore
The T&T Woodward patent of 1876 was known for a time as the 'Acme' and was retailled by a number of makers other than T. Woodward. I have seen them by Adams and others.

They are generally not finished as 'best' guns, rather as third or fourth quality guns and they generally do not make very high prices in the UK. You occasionally see a better quality example but I think it was conceived as a lower-priced gun as it is quite easy to manfacture and assemble the parts.

A decent example for £200 plus commission at Holts a couple of years ago comes to mind. I sold one by T. Woodward built on his modified coil-spring patent of 1884 for £400 last year. This may well have been a prototype. There are photos of it dismantled in my book.

The original patent is quite confusing as father and son were both called Thomas Woodward.

However, it is believed the son moved to London to manage the H&H factory. You can see a photo of him on the factory floor in the H&H book by 'the Donald'.






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I just received my T. Woodward 10 bore. The first thing that comes to mind when you have this gun in your hands...is high quality. Everything about the gun is very nice. Along with the very nicely fitted heel and toe clips, it even has a compartment in the buttstock that holds 2 extra fire blued strikers and a set of coil springs. I have not had the locks off of the gun yet. The other thing I like about this gun is the shape of the action, it is rounded and feels very trim and petite for a 10 bore...it is very well balanced as well...it feels more like a medium weight 12 bore fowler than a 10 bore bruiser.

Why was this gun not more popular? The shape of the action combined with its (as you say) simplicity to manufacture, its obvious robustness, etc. I would think the gun would have more appeal.

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I have recently worked on a Woodward and co cased muzzle loader a good well made gun is this connected to the others?

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Here are some additional pics of the T. Woodward. A little more detailed than the first set I posted. Notice the excellent wood to metal fit...the odd features such as the cocking indicators, the "rolling" safety, the roundness of the action, the inside of the forend also has the words "Wanson patent 9139" engraved on it, and the little "compartment" for the extra strikers and coil springs. No doubt about it, Mr. T. Woodward knew how to make a cool gun! :-)



















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I wouldn't kick her out of bed....why the need for the extra springs ?

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Here is a similar gun retailed by E M Reilly


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