doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com .410 question please

In one of the Sears' catalogs, either '02 or '08, they offered the "Little Ladies" hammer dbl in the choice of the .44 shot or chambered for a rifle cartridge of near 3" length. They did not provide loaded shot loads for the longer case but sold primed empties for loading & stated it would take a ½oz load, & gave the proper charge of BP for that shot wt. Don't recall for sure, will have to dig out the catalog, just which cartridge it was but was a .40cal as I recall, either a Win or Sharps I am thinking.

Here it is from the 1908 Sears reprint from Gun Digest --

Here is H&D Folsom Arms Co.'s offering from 1919 into the early 20s --

Finally by 1926 H&D Folsom had brought out their Crescent Arms Co. Quail Hammerless --

Dave,

Excellent. I had read about this one, but could never confirm it. So Gabriel is incorrect about Parker being the 1st American sxs chambered 410.

Pete

Just to close the loop, here is the Sears Little Ladies double from the 1902 catalogue, no mention of the .40-82 cartridges --

PeteM, that .410 gun in the picture you posted looks a bit 'off face' to say the least. I would think that it would need the firing pins lengthened in order to reach the primer!

I have a little Belgian double with proof marks indicating 63mm. chambers, which is about 2 1/4". I have an aluminium cartridge of Belgian origin of this size. I usually use the 2" ammo in it. Lagopus.....

Lagopus,

It was in terrible shape, the butt stock was completely missing. Thought I could pick it up for song. The closing bid, as I recall was nearly $1,000. That was a few years ago.

This is my S.H. Barker in 44XL.


Almost every one of the old 44XL sxs guns I have been able to examine has been a bit off face.

Pete

I'm going wild with the scanner today! Here is the listing for the little H&R hammer doubles from the 1912 SD&G catalogue. Still .44XLs, no mention of .410-bore.



For three or four dollars less you could get these imported little guns --



I had a 28-gauge that looked like the upper gun with the name "Richard" on the lock, not even a W.

All these were leading to the 410.

French 12mm pinfire


1865 American Metallic 38 RF


1878 Winchester 32 S&W shot


1898 Peters 32 Long shot


Original Marble Game Getter 22rf & 44XL with sight.
1908 – 1918 Model 1908. The 12” barrel prevailed until 1910 then added to it was the 15” in early 1910, then the 18” on April 1 1910. Towards the end of this production they were stamped 44XL - 410. Inventory was exhausted in 1918.

1921 –1941 Incl. Model 11921(M21) Game Getter returns minus the Flexible Rear Sight with other improvements and 12”, 15”, and 18” barrels. By this time it was chambered in 22rf and 410.



Pete