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Looking for any information regarding this maker. I believe he started out as a gunsmith/gunmaker in Birmingham, and later became a manager at Holland & Holland?? Was Thomas related to James? I have just acquired a spiral spring sidelock, underlever action from this maker and would like have more information about his gunmaking business.
Thanks in advance for any help and information.
Dustin
Last edited by LeFusil; 03/13/09 07:20 PM.
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I have owned several Spiral Spring Woodwards. Cool guns! There is a bit in Boothroyds books ans maybe a mention in Donalad Dallas H&H book. I'm not in front of my books at the moment. How about some pics?
Steve
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Correct about him becoming manager at H & H. He was at 10, Steelhouse Lane, Birmingham from 1868 - 86 and 7, Bath Street, from 1887 - 1890. No idea of a conection to James. I have seen a few T. Woodward guns and one sidelock non-ejector had had someone try to make the 'T' into a 'J'; possibly hoping for more money for it. Lagopus.....
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Converting the "T" to a "J" would double the value, provided the buyer didn't understand that the designs, or at least the ones I've seen, used by "T" never darkened the door of "J". "T" appears to have done some very fine work. Manager at H&H was no trivial job. Interesting that at H&H, he managed the production of lots of BV1 guns, but on his own, he is BV3. Same for John Robertson at Boss.
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I believe the Holland/Woodward falling block was this chap too. One of the prettier Brit falling blocks to my eye.
Steve
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Donald Dallas reports in the H&H The Royal Gunmaker p106. that there were two Thomas Woodwards living in Aston , Birmingham both the same age , both gunmakers. T.W. who went to H&H was probably a supervisor at Scotts and the other worked out of 10 Steelhouse Lane.Those guns that were marked T Woodward that I have seen have been fairly run of the mill stuff, reasonable but not exceptional.
Hugh Lomas,
H.G.Lomas Gunmakers Inc.
920 876 3745
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Thank you all for the commentary and comments on where to find good information. Hugh, Would you consider the spiral spring locks and underlever action, cocking indicators and "rolling safety" run of the mill stuff? I've seen alot of English guns and these features seem quite unique in the realm of English doubles. Your thoughts? Dustin    
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I know that gun and have shot it. It was owned by a fellow vintager at one point. great gun. Enjoy!
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Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought stupid,than open it and confirm.
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Notice that T. Woodward action has a normal sliding safety? I really like the "rolling" safety on the Woodward I just picked up, it works well and is pretty unique. Dustin
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